Jace Andregg?

He merely brought the program back from the dead, energized the fan base, won 9 games and our first ever bowl game.. Not the time or place dude.
Lolz. And he clotted his roster with Iowa kids who never produced, just so he could “win” recruiting battles with Iowa. That’s exactly the point. The reason the programs declined after he made the successes you mentioned,

I was well known here as a McCarney supporter. Not bashing him, just being honest about his errors and flaws.

And being grateful that CMC hasn’t made the same mistakes,

if you don’t understand the difference, that’s your problem, not mine.
 
Lolz. And he clotted his roster with Iowa kids who never produced, just so he could “win” recruiting battles with Iowa. That’s exactly the point. The reason the programs declined after he made the successes you mentioned,

I was well known here as a McCarney supporter. Not bashing him, just being honest about his errors and flaws.

And being grateful that CMC hasn’t made the same mistakes,

if you don’t understand the difference, that’s your problem, not mine.
I am very biased but I think this is complete BS. A LOT of people on here and in the stands right now are because of Coach Mac and the Iowa kids he recruited. I can obviously give a lot of specifics but our record books prove my point. The failures in the end weren’t due to recruiting in Iowa. There were lots of misses on out of state kids. The Iowa kids and even Iowa walk ons helped fill the gaps made by out of state misses. I will never see a need or reason to criticize Mac.
 
I am very biased but I think this is complete BS. A LOT of people on here and in the stands right now are because of Coach Mac and the Iowa kids he recruited. I can obviously give a lot of specifics but our record books prove my point. The failures in the end weren’t due to recruiting in Iowa. There were lots of misses on out of state kids. The Iowa kids and even Iowa walk ons helped fill the gaps made by out of state misses. I will never see a need or reason to criticize Mac.

Truth be told, your whole response is BS. Not because of any points you made, Because it had nothing to do with what I actually said.

It would probably help if you actually paid attention to what I said, instead of attempting to fit my words to your own preconceived notions.

I did not say that “recruiting Iowa kids is bad”. What I said was that Mac recruited too many of them. Not that hard to grasp.

Sure, the guys like Blythe, Bruns, Beaudet and Butler were good. And lots more like them. I’m damn happy to to have had them!

The problem was that he got too wrapped up in signing more Iowans than Iowa did. Quantity over quality. Sure, lots off Cyclone fans were happy to have “bragging rights” on Signing Day.

Many of the failings of Mac’s latter offensive lines—which were putrid, from Seneca’s senior year on—were because he signed too many Iowa kids who not only never panned out, they never really had the tools, the athleticism, to do so in the first place.

That’s just one example. Mac’s best teams never had depth anywhere. In part because he insisted on filling out his classes with borderline Iowa kids who didn’t really have a chance.

Matter of fact, late in his tenure, I was talking with a then-current player. An upperclassman from out of state. After we had happily talked football for a while, I thought to ask him why Mac had been signing so many Iowa kids.

After being forthcoming on a number of subjects, this one left the young man quiet. After a moment, he finally responded.

“We’re not supposed to talk about that.”

Huh. Not what I had expected to hear. And, I think, telling.

By the way—at the same time, Hayden Fry got caught up in the same “sign lots of Iowans than the other school” pissing contest. One reason why his last few teams weren’t all that good, either.
 
An Iowa kid with UNI-level talent is exactly the sort of recruit we would get for decades until a couple years ago so it makes sense people thought he would fit.

You mean like the current state of Iowa's basketball program?

Sorry. Had to.
 
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An Iowa kid with UNI-level talent is exactly the sort of recruit we would get for decades until a couple years ago so it makes sense people thought he would fit.
I wonder, do you put together some of the nonsense political memes I constantly see on Facebook? Because this is an oversimplification—at best.

Over the past few decades, ISU has signed it’s fair share of BCS level talent. Alas, we’ve also signed “UNI-level” talent, and—especially under McCarney—guys who weren’t even that good.

And who knows how some of the Iowa kids CMC is signing will turn out, because we haven’t had even one full five-year cycle yet.

Btw—in before “We didn’t offer this kid, so he’ll have huge games against us!!!”
 

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