ISU Gambling Megathread

[KnappShack]

DMR dropped a story an hour ago.

I am leaning that this dude lost $$$ gambling, instituted his own "investigation" and was turned down. Refined it to the "athletic facility" and got approval. When they saw all the mess in IC, they had to do ISU in order to be "fair and balanced".

DCI agent in Iowa student-athlete gambling investigation accused of 'warrantless' searches

An attorney representing several players charged in Iowa student-athlete gambling probe says agent testimony shows unapproved searches without warrant

www.desmoinesregister.com

I'm not an attorney, but Dudley Do-Right going "rogue" and using "warrantless searches" should concern every citizen


"An Iowa law enforcement agent went rogue about a year ago, probing online betting activity inside a college dorm without a warrant and against the commands of his supervisors"

 

[Kinch]

I read Chapter 13 of the Iowa Code and cannot find this. Any chance you could give a better citation for the specific wording?

Sorry- I thought it was Chapter 13 of the Iowa code, but it’s Chapter 13 of the Racing and Gaming of the Iowa Code (491). Look at 13.2(7), 13.2(13) are two that I noticed that may apply.

https://www.legis.iowa.gov/docs/iac/agency/09-06-2023.491.pdf

 

[isufbcurt]

Sorry- I thought it was Chapter 13 of the Iowa code, but it’s Chapter 13 of the Racing and Gaming of the Iowa Code (491). Look at 13.2(7), 13.2(13) are two that I noticed that may apply.

https://www.legis.iowa.gov/docs/iac/agency/09-06-2023.491.pdf

Those relate to the internal controls that the gambling entity has to have in place.

There is no law in Iowa saying athletes/coaches cannot sports bet if they are of legal age.

 

[Kinch]

Those relate to the internal controls that the gambling entity has to have in place.

There is no law in Iowa saying athletes/coaches cannot sports bet if they are of legal age.

Then why does state law require books to prohibit players, trainers and coaches?

 

[GMackey32]

Then why does state law require books to prohibit players, trainers and coaches?

Is there a state law for that?

 

[RagingCloner]

i gave u that info in secrecy!

Easy does it. Most people’s phones don’t zoom in that far, so I’m sure you’re safe

 

[CtownCyclone]

Then why does state law require books to prohibit players, trainers and coaches?

Because that's what they wanted it to say? Why do they limit gambling to 21 and over? Why do they limit alcohol consumption to 21 and over?

 

[JHpsyclonz]

I'm not an attorney, but Dudley Do-Right going "rogue" and using "warrantless searches" should concern every citizen


"An Iowa law enforcement agent went rogue about a year ago, probing online betting activity inside a college dorm without a warrant and against the commands of his supervisors"

Everyone involved should be fired and the state and DCI should be sued. I don’t care if the results had shown a multi-million dollar gambling ring with ties to the Gambinos… you can’t violate people’s constitutional rights…

 

[CascadeClone]

DMR dropped a story an hour ago.

I am leaning that this dude lost $$$ gambling, instituted his own "investigation" and was turned down. Refined it to the "athletic facility" and got approval. When they saw all the mess in IC, they had to do ISU in order to be "fair and balanced".

DCI agent in Iowa student-athlete gambling investigation accused of 'warrantless' searches

An attorney representing several players charged in Iowa student-athlete gambling probe says agent testimony shows unapproved searches without warrant

www.desmoinesregister.com

I was wondering if he had some vendetta against some of the UI wrestlers or coaches. Some personal beef w the Brands, or some kid that went to UI instead of UD or some stupid thing like that.
Or maybe some kid said "im betting on my app" and that got him going. Idk just speculating.

 

[cycloneworld]

I'm not an attorney, but Dudley Do-Right going "rogue" and using "warrantless searches" should concern every citizen


"An Iowa law enforcement agent went rogue about a year ago, probing online betting activity inside a college dorm without a warrant and against the commands of his supervisors"

Now we know why athletes in 49 other states didn’t get caught up in this…rogue DCI agent trying to make a name for himself. Makes a lot more sense.

What doesn’t make sense is the state continuing on with these cases using illegally obtained information.

 

[2speedy1]

I guess I want to know why the media isnt putting this DCI agents picture up on every news station, and every paper? Why isnt his entire record put out in public for everyone to see and scrutinize? Why arent they finding him guilty in the public eye before any investigation or trial? Why isnt his career and life destroyed for his poor decisions? Whey is he being protected by the media?

This is all what happened to these players. This is all what was done to them. Media blasted all their pictures information and every possible mistake, for the world to judge, for them to lose everything, for them to get kicked off teams, and lose eligibility. This all was from an illegal investigation, that the media doesnt seem to want answers about, and that the DCI is doing everything to cover it up.

These guys all lost everything they had going for them. Many without ever being actually charged, because of the way the system works. These guys should never been put through this but for a corrupt DCI agent that probably was picked on by a a football player when he was a kid so now he wanted revenge.

I have yet to see one thing about this DCI agent reported on, besides his name. No picture, no record, no history, no interviews, nothing. Reporters today are either to lazy, scared, or in the pocket of the DCI that they wont do actual journalism.

 

[Cycsk]

Basically he wanted to dig something up out of some internal paranoia or vendetta - with absolutely no foundation of reasoning beyond that. It would be like me digging through all the private details of CF's member base because of an unfounded and unwarranted belief that there could be somebody pretending to be other than their true self and posting all of the findings to the public.

 

[Cycsk]

Yikes. This whole thing is going to get ugly for DCI.

I was nosey and did a quick search of this Sanger dude. Appears he is set to present a “case study on sports betting fraud” at some gaming regulators conference this spring. Wonder if he will include these new updates as part of his case study.

Midwest Gaming Investigators & Regulators

mgir.org

Conference held at Wildwood Hotel and Casino in Cripple Creek, CO.

It would be funny if someone had a booth with a betting pool on the total amount of settlements for his misbehavior.

 

[BCClone]

So maybe now we’re finding out why this was isolated to the state of Iowa. They (the state) gone done broke the law.

I would say Sanger did and then his DCI supervisors did.

 

[BCClone]

While lawsuits are overboard in our society, I expect some legitimate lawsuits for invasion of privacy, ignoring civil rights, and public defamation stemming from this.

We are talking big $$$$. Enyi lost a year, Dekkers can say his chance at the NFL was hampered. Others can say they lost a year of competing and now with NIL, that they were tarnished. The state and Sanger (I hope the state doesn't eat it all because this guy needs to be slaving away the rest of this life to pay this off with what he did to people) will have hurting anuses after this.

 

[Clonehomer]

We are talking big $$$$. Enyi lost a year, Dekkers can say his chance at the NFL was hampered. Others can say they lost a year of competing and now with NIL, that they were tarnished. The state and Sanger (I hope the state doesn't eat it all because this guy needs to be slaving away the rest of this life to pay this off with what he did to people) will have hurting anuses after this.

Zero chance the agent pays a dime for this. He was working for the state and thus it is their responsibility.

 

[AuH2O]

Zero chance the agent pays a dime for this. He was working for the state and thus it is their responsibility.

Not really. If someone does something illegal or is negligent and is working for a state organization they absolutely can be held personally liable in criminal and civil court. People conducting fraud on government grants goes to jail and pays the fines. The university or the state aren't charged for anything, nor do they do anything in defense of that person. Or if a faculty member allows something to occur that they should reasonably know is unsafe and a student gets hurt in a lab, that faculty member is personally liable.

Now, there may also be charges or civil claims against the state/agency to cover their bases, but the idea that a state agency or the state is going to go to bat for someone doing something wrong isn't true. The exceptions are when the person that is or would likely be personally liable is also the decision maker (i.e. Barta and Iowa's AD, Leath and Iowa State).

Maybe this guy has some powerful allies, but if he disregarded direction and rules, he's probably on his own. For other than the absolute top dogs in a state organization, the state isn't going to throw resources at defending the guy or throw money at settlements that are directed at him personally, which absolutely can and should happen.

 

[ScottyP]

What is frustrating was that Sanger initiated the investigation, was told to stop by his supervisor, then proceeded even further. Once he found more, he reported it to his supervisor and they allowed it. At the very least, Sanger should have been fired for disregarding orders the first time.

 

[dafarmer]

There will be a law passed so that the state will set financial limits for these actions. Got to cover their @$$e$. I am sure the Atty Gen. has people looking into this.

 

[Turn2]

Not really. If someone does something illegal or is negligent and is working for a state organization they absolutely can be held personally liable in criminal and civil court. People conducting fraud on government grants goes to jail and pays the fines. The university or the state aren't charged for anything, nor do they do anything in defense of that person. Or if a faculty member allows something to occur that they should reasonably know is unsafe and a student gets hurt in a lab, that faculty member is personally liable.

Now, there may also be charges or civil claims against the state/agency to cover their bases, but the idea that a state agency or the state is going to go to bat for someone doing something wrong isn't true. The exceptions are when the person that is or would likely be personally liable is also the decision maker (i.e. Barta and Iowa's AD, Leath and Iowa State).

Maybe this guy has some powerful allies, but if he disregarded direction and rules, he's probably on his own. For other than the absolute top dogs in a state organization, the state isn't going to throw resources at defending the guy or throw money at settlements that are directed at him personally, which absolutely can and should happen.

So you're saying the State could play dumb and no one would argue?