ISU Gambling Megathread
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I expect millions of dollars to change hands with all the lawsuits that are coming.
The state may need to dip into the annually allocated U of I lawsuit settlement funds.
Maybe that's what Kimmie is saving all that money for?
It would only be right if Hunter Dekkers walked away with millions from this... that would be awesome! And Enyi too!
UNI and Upper Iowa were told that the facilities at all 4 DI/DII universities in the state were geofenced and it was the book's software that picked up the activity due to SAs having the apps on their phones within that geofencing. UNI and Upper Iowa were told they were clean.
That is not in any way, shape or form what happened obviously. This was one agent with some kind of complex it appears.
Right. It was a fishing expedition.
I feel there are 2 different situations. The placement of the GeoFence in the dorm was an unreasonable search. And there should be punishment related to that search. Especially, based on he was told "no" by his supervisor and DCI head.
Putting a GeoFence on UI and ISU athletic facilities might be more ambiguous. If it is illegal for athletes to bet on sport (college or pro), then proactive law enforment might be constitutional. How is monitoring Athletic Facilities any different than setting up roadblocks to catch drunk drivers? In fact it seems more restrictive because with roadblocks they don't just stop people leaving bars.
Putting a GeoFence on UI and ISU athletic facilities might be more ambiguous. If it is illegal for athletes to bet on sport (college or pro), then proactive law enforment might be constitutional. How is monitoring Athletic Facilities any different than setting up roadblocks to catch drunk drivers? In fact it seems more restrictive because with roadblocks they don't just stop people leaving bars.
It's not illegal for athletes to bet. It's just against NCAA rules.
That's an NCAA rule, not a law.
Also points to the notion they were targeting ONLY Iowa and ISU without intent/probable cause (using probable cause as non-legal term here). Why not every dorm across the state, or every athletic facility across the state. Comes back to the selective "targeting" of certain individuals.
What a waste of tax dollars. Simply amazing that Sanger didn’t have better things to do with his time than to go after these terrible ‘law breaking’ athletes.
I expect there to be politicians that will want these settlements to come from athletic department budgets. Being an election year and all, there will not be an opportunity lost to ‘save’ the taxpayers from having to foot this bill.
These kids deserve every penny with how people drug them through the mud
But it is if they are under 21. Which would be around 60% of student athletes. Plus there is the greater concern of an athlete's ability to impact the outcome of athletic events they participate in.
The fact that Isaiah Lee was busted for betting on 21 ISU football games and betting against ISU vs. Texas legitimizes the investigation. Plus the investigation identified people betting using another person's gambling account, which is illegal regardless of the bettors age.
Again, I view the investigation in similar light to roadblocks to bust drunk drivers. The roadblocks target everyone- those drinking or someone coming from work, shopping, church, etc. If a roadblock ID's 1 drunk driver out of 100 people stopped, it was worth the effort and cost. Same goes for the putting a geofence around athletic facilities.
Underage gambling is a $645 fine, not worthy of the resources DCI spent on this.
It’s a bad analogy because drunk driving is illegal for everyone, not just those who are under 21.
True, but what percentage of people pulled over for a roadblock have even been drinking? Less than 25%? Maybe less than 10%? What percent of people in the athletic facility shouldn't be betting on sports? Over 50%.
Yikes. This whole thing is going to get ugly for DCI.
I was nosey and did a quick search of this Sanger dude. Appears he is set to present a “case study on sports betting fraud” at some gaming regulators conference this spring. Wonder if he will include these new updates as part of his case study.
I was nosey and did a quick search of this Sanger dude. Appears he is set to present a “case study on sports betting fraud” at some gaming regulators conference this spring. Wonder if he will include these new updates as part of his case study.
