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randomfan44 said:
If Moss shoots 42% from 3 again next year then he will have performed the role requested of him.

And with the addition of Dok, DeSousa, Moss and the recruiting class, KU will be competing for the Big 12 title and be a serious contender for another trip to the Final Four.
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I really really wish you had watched Moss play a variety of games instead of looking at his stat line. He was incredibly inconsistent. The reason his numbers didn't show that as much was because he wasn't selfish. When he'd miss 3 shots in a row, he'd shut down and usually wouldn't see the floor anymore, which happened constantly.
 
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Statefan10 said:
I really really wish you had watched Moss play a variety of games instead of looking at his stat line. He was incredibly inconsistent. The reason his numbers didn't show that as much was because he wasn't selfish. When he'd miss 3 shots in a row, he'd shut down and usually wouldn't see the floor anymore, which happened constantly.
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Honestly, I think Fran drove some of his inconsistencies. Fran has a history of not letting his guys play through a tough shooting night. I think Moss will be a great fit at KU and Self knows how to pull the levers to get the best out of his guys.
 
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BillBrasky4Cy said:
Honestly, I think Fran drove some of his inconsistencies. Fran has a history of not letting his guys play through a tough shooting night. I think Moss will be a great fit at KU and Self knows how to pull the levers to get the best out of his guys.
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I guess so. We'll have to wait and see if it was a problem with the school he was at / prior coach, or if indeed is himself.
 
randomfan44 said:
If Moss shoots 42% from 3 again next year then he will have performed the role requested of him.

And with the addition of Dok, DeSousa, Moss and the recruiting class, KU will be competing for the Big 12 title and be a serious contender for another trip to the Final Four.
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Shooting 42% isn't as important as when he is a threat from 3.
Iowans who watched Moss during his hawkeye career know he will shoot well against lesser competition and low pressure situations but, was on the bench in multiple end of games and high leverage situations.

Needing him for your assumed B12 title and final four run is problematic. Not to mention playing games in the Phog with a fan base that cares on national TV rather than in IC with half full crowd on the Big 10 network could be an issue by itself.
 
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BillBrasky4Cy said:
Honestly, I think Fran drove some of his inconsistencies. Fran has a history of not letting his guys play through a tough shooting night. I think Moss will be a great fit at KU and Self knows how to pull the levers to get the best out of his guys.
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Also, derpth.
 
My biz partner is a big Hawk fan (though not overly delusional). His take on Moss is he is super streaky and inconsistent, as mentioned above. He will make 13 in a row, then miss 13 in a row.

It's ENTIRELY possible some of that inconsistency could be the result of poor coaching - either the physical or the mental aspect i.e. raging Fran in your head.

Guess we will find out. If KU just wants a threat from 3, Moss will fit the bill, but not to their usual standards and expectations. Maybe a poor man's Svi or Vick. Might be enough to open up Dok a bit, and that's something in itself.
 
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randomfan44 said:
If Moss shoots 42% from 3 again next year then he will have performed the role requested of him.

And with the addition of Dok, DeSousa, Moss and the recruiting class, KU will be competing for the Big 12 title and be a serious contender for another trip to the Final Four.
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You're in for a rude awakening
 
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LLCoolJansma said:
Shooting 42% isn't as important as when he is a threat from 3.
Iowans who watched Moss during his hawkeye career know he will shoot well against lesser competition and low pressure situations but, was on the bench in multiple end of games and high leverage situations.

Needing him for your assumed B12 title and final four run is problematic. Not to mention playing games in the Phog with a fan base that cares on national TV rather than in IC with half full crowd on the Big 10 network could be an issue by itself.
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He shot a higher 3pt fg% in conference games than in non-con.

He shot 4-8 from 3 in the NCAA tourney. His most challenging game was at Michigan State and he shot 2-3 from 3 that game. He shot 4-5 from 3 against a good Iowa State tourney team. He shot 3-5 from 3 vs. Tennessee. He shot 6-10 from 3 at tourney team Minnesota.

Michigan shut him down good but they shut down everyone.

I think in a full season with a good coach in a good offense with a monster low post advantage and Moss will see more open threes that he ever did at Iowa.
 
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Statefan10 said:
I really really wish you had watched Moss play a variety of games instead of looking at his stat line. He was incredibly inconsistent. The reason his numbers didn't show that as much was because he wasn't selfish. When he'd miss 3 shots in a row, he'd shut down and usually wouldn't see the floor anymore, which happened constantly.
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Different coach, different teammates, different system, different point in his own career.

We'll see.
 
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LLCoolJansma said:
Backing your Moss impact point is Rob Dauster.

@RobDauster Updated the preseason top 25 due to some recent developments. I didn't move Kansas at all with Isaiah Moss committing. His shooting helps, but I still think their biggest issue is figuring out what to do that the four.
https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2019/06/10/college-basketball-2019-2020-preseason-top-25/

I can see KU fans seeing the raw numbers Moss put up being a big impact for them but from those of us in Iowa who have seen his streaky play and weaknesses don't feel it real is that big of an improvement. It definitely fills a need Self had after losing out on Hampton and they should be happy getting him just not a game changer.
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I think if he is on the floor more he won’t lose the flow of game and disappear. Fran misused him.
 
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Sigmapolis said:
Well, if the past is so irrelevant, guess you've got nothing in KU's history to celebrate.

Come on. Don't give me that. You've got a shrine to Super Mario Chalmers somewhere.
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Fran makes Fran look like an idiot. Fran makes Barta look like he needs a soft helmet and a caretaker.
 
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BryceC said:
He'll get better coaching at KU for one.

For two, most players are inconsistent. I've compared him to Svi multiple times. Svi was inconsistent at times. I don't think Self has any delusions about how good Moss is. He's not great. But he can probably fill that Svi junior year production and that was a dang good KU team.
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Furthermore; if the coaching/development is as bad as I think it is one year in a program that actually has coaching may be just what the doctor ordered. I don’t think he becomes an nba draft pick, but if he works his ass off he just may become a legit euro player.
 
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CyDude16 said:
I can’t stop laughing at the Evelyn and Frederick hype.

They are in for a rude awakening lol
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Speaking of hype...what’s this guy up to?
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