Iowa vs Penn State

They aren't lucky. They are fundamentally sound and have some big time players on defense. They'll do this all year until they play someone like Bama.
Dude they are super talented without a doubt, but dear God some of the turnovers and breaks they get are not skill-based. It's dumb luck, which every team gets here and there. They have gotten in to a level that is unseen.
 
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Dude they are super talented without a doubt, but dear God some of the turnovers and breaks they get are not skill-based. It's dumb luck, which every team gets here and there. They have gotten in to a level that is unseen.
It's the same **** they have been doing for 20 years under Ferentz. They always have won ugly. They have a few more players than usual this year and college football is pretty mediocre.
 
It's the same **** they have been doing for 20 years under Ferentz. They always have won ugly. They have a few more players than usual this year and college football is pretty mediocre.
No one is saying this isn't what they do. But they are on record pace for turnovers and turnover margin at this point. That 2011 Bama team (regarded as one of the top-5 defenses of all-time) I believe was only plus-17 or 18 on turnovers that year. That defense was light years better than this Iowa one. Teams rarely crossed the 50 against them until the game was well in hand.
 
There were a few guys. Kstate was missing a bunch too Seem to remember everyone saying thats just part of the game and why you recruit.

I mean, ISU lost to Louisiana because of it, and media talked them down all season as a result. They went out and played the games with whoever they had, just like all their opponents.
 

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