Iowa State Vs. Iowa

Seriously, this game isn't going to be close.<br> <br>
I like that long winded post above with the comparisons at every position that somehow has Iowa (a team returning the vast majority of it's starters and best running back from a 11-2 BCS Orange Bowl winning team that finished #7 in the Nation) worse at almost every position when compared to Iowa State?<br> <br>
Seriously? Wow. <br> <br>
I mean, if you want to talk
about Iowa State having a
chance due to some
massive stretch of mistakes,
bad luck and turnovers, no
problem, but to put Iowa
behind at almost every
position is just a flat out joke.
At least be somewhat
honest about everything.

Also, do you realize that you
have only had ONE single
season with more than 7
wins since 1978?
also, do you realize iowa state has won 7 of the last 12 in the series?
 
I did watch the game, and that was play action on which the CB bit, not the QB standing back surveying the field and picking apart the defense. That was one of 2 throws that were actually down field. The only time EIU moved the ball was with that fake punt. Most of the time the ball was dumped off near the flat and the receiver didn't have much room to run afterward. You said the QB stood still for "6-8 seconds looking off receivers", I could count the times he stood still for more than 4 on one hand.
You dont think ISU will dump the ball for 5-10 yards, that is our offense, but remember one thing, we have WRs, RBs, and TEs 100 times better than Eastern Illinios Academy Tech. The LBs for Iowa will have their hands full and will struggle to cover Franklin. Also the corners for Iowa are decent but not great, I would put our WRs at a category of good, they will struggle to cover our receivers in open space.
 
I was at the Iowa game yesterday and came across with 2 thoughts on Iowa. Number one their D-line looked very good. The EIU QB did not have time at all and the running back never had a good lane to run through. If the RB made any yards it was because he made a good cut.

The other other thing I noticed was that you could get pressure on Stanzi. It wasn't by EIU rushing 4 guys but when they sent 5-6 they hit Stanzi a few times. Iowa's pass protection did not seem to be overly effective against blitzes up the middle. Stanzi was able to get the ball off but ISU's guys would get to him a little faster being that they are better athletes than EIU's.

Iowa is exactly the team everyone thinks they are. Very solid all around with no glaring weaknesses.
 
So what? You also won 4 out of 5 in the late 70's / early 80's.

Guess what happened after that? You lost 15 in a row.

I fail to see what historical trends from 30+ years ago have to do with this game Saturday? On paper Iowa has a far superior team. That doesn't matter. It all comes down to execution on gameday.

Before you respond, yes, that gigantic post was moronic.

Can ISU spread out the offense and stay away from the pressure of the D-line? Can Arnaud have a clean game?

Can ISU's D stop Iowa from lining up and going right at them? And can they force some opportune turnovers?

These are the things that will make the difference for ISU on Saturday.

And shouldn't you be making sure your trapper keeper is organized before school starts rather than hanging out on the board of a rival of your Dad's favorite team?
 
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So what? You also won 4 out of 5 in the late 70's / early 80's.
Guess what happened after
that? You lost 15 in a row. >[/QUOTE]
your bringing something up from 20+ years ago
 
You dont think ISU will dump the ball for 5-10 yards, that is our offense, but remember one thing, we have WRs, RBs, and TEs 100 times better than Eastern Illinios Academy Tech. The LBs for Iowa will have their hands full and will struggle to cover Franklin. Also the corners for Iowa are decent but not great, I would put our WRs at a category of good, they will struggle to cover our receivers in open space.
Well looks like you turned tail and ran away from your OP, cool beans. Hyperbole must be your strong suit, very telling. Dumping the ball off may be what ISU does, but what about last year? Seemed like Arnaud was playing catch with Iowa's secondary.
 
Well looks like you turned tail and ran away from your OP, cool beans. Hyperbole must be your strong suit, very telling. Dumping the ball off may be what ISU does, but what about last year? Seemed like Arnaud was playing catch with Iowa's secondary.

I don't know what his username is on HN, but he posts pretty regularly over there under some ISU name. Apparently he puts out some real gems. Trust me, it's not worth the time, we all know the guy is a joke.

And yes, if he knew what hyperbole meant, he would agree with you.
 
The 7 out of 12 argument is as old and tired as the 15 game winning streak by the hawk fans. If you wanted to make a "7 out of 12" argument where does it stop. Using that same logic Iowa has won 20 of 27 or 5 of 7. You can twist the stats in your favor all you want and use the sample size you want but when you really look at it, not that great of a series. That being said, I expect the game Saturday to be competitive if AA can keep his mistakes down and dink and dunk Iowa in the same fashion Northwestern does. Rhodes not trying trickery wouldn't hurt either.....
 
Where? Arnuad was in his 3rd system last season. ISU will dump the ball down just like they did against NIU. Our WRs are made to make the yards after the catch. Nothing I saw from Iowa's corners yesterday showed me ISU cant do that Saturday.
 
Agree with all of those that say the 7-12 stuff is old.

New year, different teams...... let's just see what THESE teams can do and not the ones in the past.
 
Where? Arnuad was in his 3rd system last season. ISU will dump the ball down just like they did against NIU. Our WRs are made to make the yards after the catch. Nothing I saw from Iowa's corners yesterday showed me ISU cant do that Saturday.
Except for the fact that EIU got no where after they caught the ball. But facts aside...
 
Iowa's D line is huge, I hope ISU's Oline is ready. Iowa can be beat it wont be easy though. If you get pressure on Stanzi he makes mistakes, but can out Dline get pressure on him. Our WRs match up well with their DBs and if AA can hit Franklin on the 5 to 10 yard middle passes without throwing picks that will really open things up. Sims being back will help the pass coverage big time. The key to this game would be Special teams and Iowa is always good there and that is ISU's weakest point.
 
In addition to turnovers, I think the key will be whether we can throw long. This week, we looked pretty good with the quick passes to WRs who then had other WRs block for them. I waited all night for SJ to give a fake and go long. He and our other receivers can do their part if we call the plays for them.

Agreed completely. Last year Arnaud wasn't getting many easy throws because they could press our receivers and the safeties pulled up as well.
 
The 7 out of 12 argument is as old and tired as the 15 game winning streak by the hawk fans. If you wanted to make a "7 out of 12" argument where does it stop. Using that same logic Iowa has won 20 of 27 or 5 of 7. You can twist the stats in your favor all you want and use the sample size you want but when you really look at it, not that great of a series. That being said, I expect the game Saturday to be competitive if AA can keep his mistakes down and dink and dunk Iowa in the same fashion Northwestern does. Rhodes not trying trickery wouldn't hurt either.....

How many of those seven did you Hawk fans think you were going to win? That argument is made to show Hawk fans that they are perennially overconfident when it comes to playing us. If you guys ever learned, we could stop making that argument.
 
You dont think ISU will dump the ball for 5-10 yards, that is our offense, but remember one thing, we have WRs, RBs, and TEs 100 times better than Eastern Illinios Academy Tech. The LBs for Iowa will have their hands full and will struggle to cover Franklin. Also the corners for Iowa are decent but not great, I would put our WRs at a category of good, they will struggle to cover our receivers in open space.

You really don't get it do you? If ISU has to send LB's to get pressure on Stanzi then who covers Risner or Herman and keeping Stanzi from dumping it off for 5 to.10 yards? You don't think Iowa is capable of creating mismatches? ISU will move the ball, what they need to do to have a chance is not let Iowa move the ball and I don't think the ISU D can slow Iowa down as much as the Iowa D will be able to slow down ISU.
 
That being said, I expect the game Saturday to be competitive if AA can keep his mistakes down and dink and dunk Iowa in the same fashion Northwestern does. Rhodes not trying trickery wouldn't hurt either.....

NW doesn't beat Iowa with mirrors - under Hankwitz, they have one of the toughest, most physical defenses around. So yeah, we would do well to copy NW, but it would start with imitating their D.
 
How many of those seven did you Hawk fans think you were going to win? That argument is made to show Hawk fans that they are perennially overconfident when it comes to playing us. If you guys ever learned, we could stop making that argument.
*Sigh* The Iowa program has been better, that is why Iowa fans are confident. Do you think ISU fans would be doing the same if history was switched? Yes! Iowa fans have success to ride on, and as far as that goes they should have confidence. Penn State has always been confident that they would beat Iowa, yet Iowa is 7-1 against them, and they never stop feeling confident the next year.
 
Ha ha this thread got more looks than I thought it was going to.

I'm saying it will be an Iowa State upset, but thats just because I'm a Cyclone.

Also if they do upset Iowa I'm coming back here to laugh in all the hawk faces.
 

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