I-Phone "secret" tracking maps...

Believe me...you don't. I could care less if my phone tracks me or sells my info to ads. I mean, your gonna see ads no matter what if you go online. I read something no long ago that basically said younger people (I'm 42 so not really young) have grown up with the expectation that they are always tracked and watched so to them its not big deal at all. It's older folks who seem to have the issue.

But again, it goes back to why, unless your doing something wrong or illegal you would care about google or apple knowing your whereabouts or what brand of beer you drink?

Now...if they start publishing browser history...well then...we can lock arms against the MAN.

It's in your home listening too if you have Alexa.
 
If that information is so valuable, then how is them profiting off it any different than if they were selling a shirt with your image for a profit and without your permission?

It's different because of that box you checked without reading, agreeing to the terms of service.
 
I'm confused. Why don't you just turn off the GPS in your phone? That's the best way to avoid your phone knowing where you are.
 
Honestly i've found the google maps timeline useful at times. There's been times i wanted to remember what day i went somewhere or what place i went to on a certain day that i can just pull up.
 
No one cares about data privacy until the government uses it to destroy people. It's harmless until it is horrifically destructive. Black swan kind of thing.

Imagine a government rounding up an ethnic or religious minority and herding them into re-education camps (China, USSR) or ghettoes (Nazi Germany). Or confiscating guns (Cuba).

If you think it can't happen here, you are in good company with everyone else who thought that, until it did happen.
I agree. The PBS show Frontline recently did a program on the Uyghurs, called China Undercover: https://www.pbs.org/video/china-undercover-zqcoh2/

With undercover footage and firsthand accounts from survivors of China's detention camps, FRONTLINE investigates the Communist regime’s mass imprisonment of Muslims, and its use of sophisticated surveillance technology against the Uyghur community.

Often PBS programs are free online for a short period after airing, and then you have to be a member to view. But it appears this one is still free.

The technology is state of the art. Even Uyghurs who are not in a concentration camp are being monitored constantly as if they were. I don’t recall that it is in use yet in other parts of China, though it seems likely that it will be. I believe it is currently more like a model that could be rolled out elsewhere. They also mentioned how they could market it to other countries, such as allies of theirs around the world.

My link is from an iPad, so people might have to search some if it doesn’t take you where you want.
 
I consent. If it bothered me more, I wouldn’t use the technology that does this. I recall that way of life, and I prefer “being tracked”.
 
At least in iOS you have the ability to turn all of this stuff off. Any app that wants to track you has to ask for permission. If in 2020 this is shocking, I'm not sure what to tell you.
 
I agree. The PBS show Frontline recently did a program on the Uyghurs, called China Undercover: https://www.pbs.org/video/china-undercover-zqcoh2/



Often PBS programs are free online for a short period after airing, and then you have to be a member to view. But it appears this one is still free.

The technology is state of the art. Even Uyghurs who are not in a concentration camp are being monitored constantly as if they were. I don’t recall that it is in use yet in other parts of China, though it seems likely that it will be. I believe it is currently more like a model that could be rolled out elsewhere. They also mentioned how they could market it to other countries, such as allies of theirs around the world.

My link is from an iPad, so people might have to search some if it doesn’t take you where you want.
Oh great. Then PBS will be tracking me too.
 
Believe me...you don't. I could care less if my phone tracks me or sells my info to ads. I mean, your gonna see ads no matter what if you go online. I read something no long ago that basically said younger people (I'm 42 so not really young) have grown up with the expectation that they are always tracked and watched so to them its not big deal at all. It's older folks who seem to have the issue.

But again, it goes back to why, unless your doing something wrong or illegal you would care about google or apple knowing your whereabouts or what brand of beer you drink?

Now...if they start publishing browser history...well then...we can lock arms against the MAN.
If anyone is out touch with the pulse of the youth its you. Just because we know its happening doesn't mean we are ok with it. There is a substantial effort to counter the old guard by the new generation. Proxy servers, bit coins, hacking enterprises, doxing, facebook sharing privacy without permission, Trump's analytics ********, credit checks to access certain districts, advertising algorithms. You are laughably ignorant to the troubles that the younger generation faces and we are tired of being lectured about it.




Start here for a preview of what kind of world the corporations would have for us.
 
Unfortunately the only way to not have companies collect your data is to not use their products. But at the end of the day, most people value the ability to use these products more than they value the privacy of their data.

This is very likely generational, but I'm not sure anyone knows HOW valuable their on-line brand is until it's been completely eroded 1 click at a time.

One of the things that troubles me the most is that big tech creates their own echo chamber. If you visit a black lives or blue live website, a chevy ad, KKK, anything you are going to be pushed "news" articles that do not challenge your views. If you're a racist you'll get pro-racist stuff. If you want to kill cops you'll be provided numerous opportunities to only solidify your thoughts with pro-cop killing "news".

Maybe the discussion is free will and freedom of choice - or the illusion that we think we have it.
 
I'm confused. Why don't you just turn off the GPS in your phone? That's the best way to avoid your phone knowing where you are.

GPS is the simple one. Safari on your phone? Siri on your phone? Whatever you browse, or say with some apps speaks volumes to your personal algorithm. If they know your digital signature, they know you. Cell phone towers constantly ping and save your location.

"Great" story from Idaho where 2 children disappeared and authorities feared for their safety. It was only with using cell phone pings they could locate several spots where the suspect was. And that's where they found the 2 bodies. Not GPS - just having a cell phone in your pocket.
 
Having social media is a choice more so than what your phone does, but I'd bet there's plenty of people out there that are posting about this on FB and outraged, while they've been updating their status and checking into places, tagging people, etc. within the same day.
 
So what if you get in your car in the morning and it says it will take you 23 mins to get to work.... and you get there in 15 mins?

Will there be a day when you get a speeding ticket for that?
 

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