Hoax v. Shucks ...

I'm not sold on that idea. I keep hearing people say it, but let's not forget, we lost to Kansas, Texas Tech, NDSU, the list goes on. Sure, we've had a tough schedule this year, but TTU and Kansas were certainly not two teams that contributed to our SOS.

This is definitely the one year where I would agree with Hawk fans, if they played us now, they would win. Don't let this Strenght of schedule thing fool you. We certainly wouldn't be doing much better with an easier schedule in any power 5 conference. We are bad.

I hear your point, but a season of losing (especially with LONG stretches between wins and or large beatdowns can wear on a team.) Apathy sets in and that definitely has happened to ISU.

I still believe that we don't get to that point if we played in the Big 10. There would be a lot more winnable games on the schedule. We would have less games where we feel we just don't belong on the field with the opposition (OU, Baylor, and probably TCU next week.)

I'm not saying ISU would win the Big 10/make a BCS bowl/or have a better record than 7-9 win year that Iowa or Neb will end up having, but you can't ignore the huge gulf in class between Big 12 teams and Big 10. Yes, Iowa would probably beat us at this point given what has transpired. My point is that our level of apathy would not have transpired in the first place if we don't get beatdown like we did this year in the Big 12.

This year's ISU team would be a a 6-6 bowl team with most Big 10 schedules IMO. At the very least we wouldn't lose to our most overmatched opponent by 45 or more points like we seem to do against an OU or Baylor team fairly consistently. That mentally messes with players and anyone who has played on a team that lost that badly can confirm that.
 
I hear your point, but a season of losing (especially with LONG stretches between wins and or large beatdowns can wear on a team.) Apathy sets in and that definitely has happened to ISU.

I still believe that we don't get to that point if we played in the Big 10. There would be a lot more winnable games on the schedule. We would have less games where we feel we just don't belong on the field with the opposition (OU, Baylor, and probably TCU next week.)

I'm not saying ISU would win the Big 10/make a BCS bowl/or have a better record than 7-9 win year that Iowa or Neb will end up having, but you can't ignore the huge gulf in class between Big 12 teams and Big 10. Yes, Iowa would probably beat us at this point given what has transpired. My point is that our level of apathy would not have transpired in the first place if we don't get beatdown like we did this year in the Big 12.

This year's ISU team would be a a 6-6 bowl team with most Big 10 schedules IMO. At the very least we wouldn't lose to our most overmatched opponent by 45 or more points like we seem to do against an OU or Baylor team fairly consistently. That mentally messes with players and anyone who has played on a team that lost that badly can confirm that.

we got smoked by kansas. that means we would lose to purdue and illinois. 4 wins at best.
 
LOL @ the same fans who mock Hilton for booing going crazy over a correct PI call in Kinnick right now.
 
Not sure why the crowd is booing, or the announcer acting like both players were causing contact.

That was a textbook defensive pass interference.
 

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