Your Governor Vilsack is on Leno tonight!!! Apparently he's running for president. Are you guys excited???
Hey you guys from Iowa...
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No can't really say I am all that exicted about it, but hey atleast he would be better then Hillary
yup, I don't think 20 straight years or w/e it's been or would be with hillary, of a Bush or Clinton in the white house is a good thing for our nation. Anyone with me on that one? :biggrin9gp:
It's early so obviously I am not set on who I am thinking of voting for, but it prolly won't be Vilsack, but best of luck to him tho. I'm leaning towards Obama or maybe McCain.
Actually, that's my big fear, that he'll be a run away hit in the Iowa primary, and become the wrong man to represent the Democratic party, much like Kerry. Obama all the way!
I do have to say though, if the election is between McCain and Obama, I'm going to have one hell of a choice to make.
I like Vilsack, but he has no chance in this presidential race. It will be effective for getting his name out there for future endeavors though.
I try not to focus so much on a candidate's charisma. Politicians realize that public perception is everything, and especially on a college campus, they know that relating to the people and acting like their friend will result in more votes than just stating their goals and how they would achieve those goals.
There's a lot of time until the election, but until now Barack is showing a lot of style and minimal substance.
There's a lot of time until the election, but until now Barack is showing a lot of style and minimal substance.
I read this thread and thought the exact same thing. He seems like a nice enough guy, people love him, but other than a loud anti-war stance, what does he stand for? Obviously I have a lot more research to do on all of the announced canidates, and the others who will throw hats in the ring, but good news is we all have pleanty of time to educate ourselves before the primary.
Vilsak never impressed me overall, and I can't believe that an ex-govener with the (convenient) admitted lack of knowledge on the use of e-mail will do well on the national scene. :biggrin9gp:
I agree with this; I think he's running for Vice President, not President. If he gets his name out now and fares well in Iowa, another candidate might be will to take him onto the ticket to win over the swing state.
I'm leaning strong towards Obama but I wish he would have waited another four (or preferably eight) years. He's only been a national senator for two years now and that doesn't speak well despite his background and personality.
He's a putz, so he fits in well as a democrat prez candidate. The endless line of losers this party has put fourth in the last 20 years is amazing.
I would vote of McCain just based on the fact that he does not side with his party all the time. He does whatever he feels is right. That is way too rare nowadays.
That's sort of odd since McCain and Obama are at totally opposite ends of the spectrum on the issues...
I would love to see an Obama/Edwards ticket. I'm not sure who would be better at the front, but I would love the youth and diversity that combination would bring.
The Democrats need to find a winning combination. Some of those liberal Supreme Court justices might not be able to survive another GOP presidency, and I would hate to see the court's balance change.
Whitey
The Democrats need to find a winning combination. Some of those liberal Supreme Court justices might not be able to survive another GOP presidency, and I would hate to see the court's balance change.
Whitey
I thought Vilsack did a nice job on the show; definitely didn't hurt his cause at all. He has taken an "I have nothing to lose" stance on issues, such as the war in Iraq. As the underdog, he has also been aggressive about proposing debates with all of the big name candidates. I like Vilsack, but he is a longshot!
I agree, but sometimes experience doesn't mean anything as we've seen with past politicians. Hopefully, Obama can think on his feet!
Obama scares me to be quite honest about it. I read a bio about him and it stated the following:
"Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black Muslim from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white atheist from Wichita, Kansas. Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii.
When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a radical Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a Muslim school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school.
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school
Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education. Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta. Wahabism is the radical teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.
If true, what are his motives??????
I have to update my message after Taco2000 pointed me to a website that apparently contradicts the above statement I read about. I am not sure which side is right, but will post both sides so you can make the objective decision yourselves......Thanks Taco2000
Here is the link:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
"Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black Muslim from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white atheist from Wichita, Kansas. Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii.
When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a radical Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a Muslim school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school.
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school
Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education. Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta. Wahabism is the radical teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.
If true, what are his motives??????
I have to update my message after Taco2000 pointed me to a website that apparently contradicts the above statement I read about. I am not sure which side is right, but will post both sides so you can make the objective decision yourselves......Thanks Taco2000
Here is the link:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
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I'm sure everyone outside of the midwest was like "Tom who?" I'm not even sure how the heck he won a 2nd term as governor last time as he did nothing but drive the state into the hole after inheriting a $10 mil budget surplus from Bransted. Remember those campaign promises that education was his main focus, well what was the first thing he cut as governor? That's right, the education budget and we had record tuition increases year after year. Our teachers are some of the worst paid in the country and are standardized test scores are not great either. He did nothing spectacular while governor to make anyone believe he is capable of running the country in my opinion.
Last poll I knew of had him the 3rd choice of Democratic Presidential choices behind John Edwards and Hillary here in Iowa. If you can't even win your own state he's not going to get far...
Last poll I knew of had him the 3rd choice of Democratic Presidential choices behind John Edwards and Hillary here in Iowa. If you can't even win your own state he's not going to get far...