**** Haws recent thoughts on Bubu Palo

[cloneswereall]

"merely"? The whole piece was about defense of Leath and ISU. One sentence at the end mentioned victims.

I'd rather not mention this but I will. I am a retired 38 year state employee. The rules about misuse of State property are very tough and have large penalties. I personally know of one state employee who was escorted off of State property by Capital Security and fired because of misuse of State property (management position no less). I knew of other State employees who were severely reprimanded and demoted because of misuse of State property. It is a big deal in State government.

You have me on years, but I know what the repercussions of misuse of state property are since I'm also a public employee.

 

[Angie]

Minor observation - having the ISU domain on the email could lend an aura of authenticity that ****.haws at yaddayadda.com would not.

While I don't think I would have carried it quite as far as aaaauuuuummm, I think it was an honest question. I don't think the "grandpa" was necessary.

Sort of. There are an awful lot of idiots with iastate.edu email addys. I don't think it necessarily lends an air of authenticity these days like it maybe used to, just verifies he is who he says he is.

 

[Clonefan94]

Really? People that do **** like you are the exact reason why I'm glad that people complain that it's difficult to fire public workers for frivolous things like this. You're literally looking for a reason to get this person in trouble for merely writing an opinion piece.

Not only that, but he's probably the reason that most government workers at places like the post office, DOT offices, etc. treat the public like ****. Imagine dealing with idiots like that all day long.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

Sort of. There are an awful lot of idiots with iastate.edu email addys. I don't think it necessarily lends an air of authenticity these days like it maybe used to, just verifies he is who he says he is.

Can't argue that point. I was presenting a possible reason for the question. And those not directly associated with the university might (heavy accent on might) give more credence to arguments/opinions put forward by retired faculty (emeritus or not), even though it's doubtful a retired faculty member from Journalism (I think?) would have any more intimate knowledge than the average citizen of Ames.

 

[Wesley]

Hmmm. I wonder where the package came from? So much for his objective journalism. If he were teaching one of his classes, I think he would call for full disclosure of the document, not just his elective references from it.

Thought usually journalists have two sources to verify the authenticity. Maybe he pulled the plug too soon? Maybe he can publish the report tomorrow on CF.

 

[chuckd4735]

Really? People that do **** like you are the exact reason why I'm glad that people complain that it's difficult to fire public workers for frivolous things like this. You're literally looking for a reason to get this person in trouble for merely writing an opinion piece.

QFT

 

[BryceC]

I'm not doubting that you heard something however that's an easy game to play that kind of reminds me of how Morgan was ran out of town. That's why if this goes to trial it will be either good or bad that the administration gets the opportunity to tell what it knows and if it's anything more than the county attorney and judges already knew.

It's bad. In a university system that is under serious scrutiny for sexual assaults you do not want to appear to be soft on it at all. If me haws is right at all Iowa State comes out looking bad.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Go use the Google.
I hope they do have that for life. It's nice to see benefits earned after a nice career.

Free email for life? SNOBS! This guy probably has a LAS koozie collection that would make me weep as well.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

I'm failing to see where the outrage is with all of this? It was an opinion piece brought about by something brought to his attention. In no way did it ever act, or try to act, as a journalistic piece. I didn't see him accusing anybody of anything. Only recounting what was said in the letter.

I will say, I had Haws for an ethics of journalism class and he was very passionate about the treatment of the media with rape or potential rape victims and the implications that treatment could have on future cases, so the last couple of lines that he threw in don't surprise me at all.

 

[Wesley]

I'm failing to see where the outrage is with all of this? It was an opinion piece brought about by something brought to his attention. In no way did it ever act, or try to act, as a journalistic piece. I didn't see him accusing anybody of anything. Only recounting what was said in the letter.

I will say, I had Haws for an ethics of journalism class and he was very passionate about the treatment of the media with rape or potential rape victims and the implications that treatment could have on future cases, so the last couple of lines that he threw in don't surprise me at all.

Probably turn this into a national article.

 

[ExCyment]

I emailed Tom Miller, the State Attorney General, to get a clarification on that question. Haws only calls himself "retired professor" not a "retired professor emeritus".

Crime of the century here. Keep on it.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

Crime of the century here. Keep on it.

Dude is going to be the next Woodward and Bernstein. Clearly this was the smoking gun.

 

[BryceC]

I learned a lot about professor emeritus status and their perks from this discussion that I didn't realize before.

I learned that somebody with 38 years of state work experience thought it was a good idea to email two different places about the same thing, wasting both of their time and our money due to redundancy and the sheer superfluous nature of the question without doing a simple google search to find the answer. Really explains how our government wastes so much time and money. Thank you for the ample lesson.

 

[aauummm]

I learned that somebody with 38 years of state work experience thought it was a good idea to email two different places about the same thing, wasting both of their time and our money due to redundancy and the sheer superfluous nature of the question without doing a simple google search to find the answer. Really explains how our government wastes so much time and money. Thank you for the ample lesson.

:biglaugh: I simply asked them for a clarification. People do it every day. Take a pill.

 

[Wesley]

I see no problem with this opinion piece. When this finally goes to civil trial, bubu may look a lot worse in the end.

Shall be interesting. It's a shame he couldn't just let it die out and move onto CSU.

What happens if bubu wins the civil suit trial?

 

[Wesley]

Yup, I'm sure it was fabricated. Someone is just clearly out to get poor Bubu.

It is now about money, so it may be the case.

 

[Wesley]

You can keep your email once you leave ISU for a fee. Not sure why anyone would, but you could do it when I graduated.

$345/yr?

 

[CyDude16]

Good catch. Now we'll see if a professor emeritus gets a free State email address for life. (maybe so, and if it is maybe the public would like to know what all perks that a professor emeritus gets free for life)

Wow, youre pathetic.

 

[CyDude16]

I graduated from isu a year ago and my email iastate.edu email still works. Give it five minutes and aaaauuummm will be on the horn trying to bust me for it.

 

[MartyFine]

Just curious as to what you are basing this on.

It is based on my knowledge as to how civil and criminal justice system work. These concepts are not difficult to understand