No Cyclone taken in the 1st round for 1000 years, No Cyclone drafted in what seems like 100 years
Hakeem Butler 1st round
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No Cyclone taken in the 1st round for 1000 years, No Cyclone drafted in what seems like 100 years
This story has been contested and if you take Bill Walsh's word, proven wrong. He reported a 4.59 40 time for Rice. He has a very good write-up about 40 times, what they mean and how misleading they can be.
Suggs out of Baltimore had a bad 40 too. Different position but LB's need closing speed.
15 years later...
Imo Butler needs to be better in routes and routine catches. Seems better in traffic than just playing catch.
Exactly. Didn't Deion Sanders have an unimpressive combine/official 40 time?
He was cut and dry the fastest player on the field with pads on.
Yep, Walter Payton was another one. There's others.
Some people just 'have it'.
Much smaller scale but I helped coach football many years ago and was asked many times why I was preferring a kid play fullback--he wasn't fast or big or anything, but he had the innate ability to hit hard and was sturdy, and my only response was 'you get hit by him and let me know what else he should be doing'. Kid was 1st team all-district, and made me look like a genius.
I'll be excited. Both for them and the program. Shows that Campbell can develop players into NFL talent; can only help recruiting to be able to say to a kid come to ISU, work hard enough, and we can get you into the NFL as a high draft pick. Hope he can start getting some OL drafted as well.
Yeah, didn't Deion Sanders hold the 40 record time for a long time? Maybe he still has it, I don't know?
Our HS trainers were from IA State. Came up for some free treatment in August. Saw Danny Harris run sub 4.2 on the turf multiple times in a row.
Its been broken 2 or 3 times now. Cowboys had a guy that ran a 4.19 or something crazy like that.
My question is, Hakeem is 6'6" 225 and produces like he does, while Noah Fant is 6'5" 240 and doesn't have the production Butler has, and Fant is projected by some to be a mid-1st rounder. If Hakeem would switch to a more of a flex position, is there any reason he wouldn't be projected to go as high?
Fail on my part lol...
Somehow I think my memory twisted what he supposedly told the Giants about their test.
Not sure who Fant is but if it's a different position it might just be different needs for an NFL offense.
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Oh no . . . this isn't going to turn into a thing where someone compares our best WR to a TE again, is it?!?!?!
They have 2 different body types. Even though I hate to give praise to a Hawk Fant is good. He’s not going to have eye popping numbers because he plays at Iowa.
No, not an inline TE, but a flex WR that moves around and causes mismatches because he's too big for DB's to cover and too fast for LB's to cover, instead of using them on the outside where there's a sideline to use as a help defender. Not saying we should use him this way exclusively, but the NFL loves this type of guy.
Right now I think the only thing Butler is lacking is the elite quick-twitch you see in a lot of the really good NFL wide receivers. But a guy 6-6 is never going to be the quickest guy around. Everything else he excels at if you ask me, and should be in consideration as a first-rounder.
I believe he did a good amount of that last year, while Allen was at WR1. Hakeem is a bit too fast, and not a good enough blocker to be thought of as a TE. Size checks out though haha.