Give him 1 more year....
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So you are going to fire an AD because of one bad hire that has hurt a program? Let's not take into account all of the great things that have been done since he has gotten here. What was he going to the big donors about for football that he isn't now? If anything we should be financially more well off because we received money from Chiz. He isn't going to be fired. He has done way to many good things for the AD as a whole for any rational person to get rid of him because of one poorly written contract.
JP is one of many Athletic Directors that ISU has had and we have had, minus the one right before him, some pretty good ones. I don't think the wheels will come off the wagon if he is gone. Eventually he will jump ship, most likely Wisconsin. Maybe I am too hard core but I am sure the Athletic Department is more than just him. Facility upgrades are great but it doesn't matter if you don't have great coaches and teams bringing in the fans to pay the bills. I also maybe more passionate about basketball and I feel that there is no more room for errors.
At the same time that facility will help to bring in the next coach if that is the case. That is why Cael left. That facility, if we need to hire another coach, will be worth a lot. Do not underestimate that.
Pollard and the basketball program is no different then what many other Athletic director go through. I would bet that 95% of the athletic directors in college sports have made a hire that was good at the time only to find out later that it was a bad one, and Pollard is no different. Greg was a good hire at the time, unfortunately it has not worked out for Greg. Every athletic directors go through these situations as to whether to fire someone, or who to hire. It was one bad decision, maybe two if you include Chzik, but I won't count that only after 2 years he had in football(more time was needed to judge that hire).
Dr. Nichols won without. Cael came from that area if I understand right and he also won't have to go very far to recruit. Penn State is paying him very well and that is the big reason. Bring in the coach and than you can justify the facilities. Remember that HUGE Big 10 TV funding pipeline doesn't hurt either.
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True, but now that most of Mac's guys are gone, the next oldest guys in line are Chizik's guys. So we will see how well they do. But I also agree that he was on the right track after he fired the two coordinators, I think after his first two years he learned from that mistake and was on his way to winning records.
Yes they are paying well but they are also offering him a lot more than a salary there as far as resources. I just do not understand how you can write off that facility as something that is not important. A coach will look at that thing and it will represent a commitment to the program. That facility does not directly produce success but it will help to bring in coaches and players. If you do not believe that then your perception of what facilities mean to incoming players and coaches is greatly skewed.
There's a good reason right there for taking a good hard look at Pollard's job security. Handing out contracts that can't be bought out because they're too expensive seems like a pretty horrible business model to me.
I was just amazed how much new post get attacked and how negative it gets. It is like being at a playground in grade school and you wandered into the wrong area. First post and I got ripped and than questioned about my credits without any real thought process. Very scary if that is what ISU now produces. I will make sure that there won't be another generation of my family going there if that is really what it is like now.
Not everybody on here is an ISU graduate. In fact, a lot of posters on here are still in high school or college. I'm not saying the people who gave you a hard time are either of those, but don't think that everybody who now graduates from ISU are like that.
You got ripped because you want to tie Pollards career to his first big hire as a fairly young AD. People just used you number of posts to try and discredit you which is also wrong, however I don't understand the theory behind tying the AD to one hire, especially his first big one.
Well, I've been around as long as you
and you can't compare coaching today with Johnnie's era. It is much tougher today. In the old Big 8, we competed with the rest of the league financially and had better facilities than most. Coaching is probably equal. There are some excellent coaches in the Big 12. Johinnie's style and abilities led to a huge homecourt advanyage, but Johnnie couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bad on the road. Today, it is more about talent more than it is coaching and if you don't massage the right AAU handlers and live on the edge, you probably are going to have second rate talent. (see Kansas State). Johnnie didn't have nearly the scrunity that Pollard and GMac have to operate under today.
Now, for Pollard, he has made one bad hire (Chizzy), but seems to have overcome that. Probably a second bad one in GMac, but he has also done things at ISU that no other AD has done. At this point I would hate to lose him.
and you can't compare coaching today with Johnnie's era. It is much tougher today. In the old Big 8, we competed with the rest of the league financially and had better facilities than most. Coaching is probably equal. There are some excellent coaches in the Big 12. Johinnie's style and abilities led to a huge homecourt advanyage, but Johnnie couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bad on the road. Today, it is more about talent more than it is coaching and if you don't massage the right AAU handlers and live on the edge, you probably are going to have second rate talent. (see Kansas State). Johnnie didn't have nearly the scrunity that Pollard and GMac have to operate under today.
Now, for Pollard, he has made one bad hire (Chizzy), but seems to have overcome that. Probably a second bad one in GMac, but he has also done things at ISU that no other AD has done. At this point I would hate to lose him.
I hope your right. It was a ghost town in the Hilton before Orr when it was a non conference game. Building the Hilton and Jack I thought were pretty big in their time. I remember watching us play OU in the old stadium and it trust me it was a huge leap to go to Jack Trice. Like I said before there were others who had a positive impact as AD, and long after Pollard is gone, we will be discussing similar issues.