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Gator at Disney

Saw this on Facebook this morning. A friend of mine from high schools mother is the manager of this hotel. Needless to say everyone is in shock.
 
Terrible. I always feel for these families who have something tragic like this happen on vacation. I'm a huge Disney fan and I can't recall another alligator attack in the park's 45 year history. There have been issues with amoeba bacteria killing people who swim in the Seven Seas Lagoon but no gator attacks I'm aware of.
 
Also, what an awful week in Orlando. Between this, the shootings, and I believe there was another incident last week, it just isn't the best week at the happiest place on earth.
 
CysRage said:
Terrible. I always feel for these families who have something tragic like this happen on vacation. I'm a huge Disney fan and I can't recall another alligator attack in the park's 45 year history. There have been issues with amoeba bacteria killing people who swim in the Seven Seas Lagoon but no gator attacks I'm aware of.
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We stayed at the Hawaiian theme one just before the Floridian a couple years ago. Makes you feel good when it says 4 gators found.
 
I heard on the news this morning that it was an area people are warned about alligators being present and Disney no longer allows people to swim in the lagoon.
 
BCClone said:
We stayed at the Hawaiian theme one just before the Floridian a couple years ago. Makes you feel good when it says 4 gators found.
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I'm sure Disney will try to remove/contain them now but usually when Disney tries to do anything with wildlife, they go under public scrutiny from wildlife activists.
 
Bret44 said:
I heard on the news this morning that it was an area people are warned about alligators being present and Disney no longer allows people to swim in the lagoon.
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If if they don't allow swimming, might best to try to drain it and put a few resorts there. The boat ride wasn't that great.
 
I don't know anything about this hotel - is it billed as you being right there with the animals? If so, I'd gather there's an insane amount of signage warning guests of the gators if they don't allow people to swim here?

If not, Disney is hugely liable here. If so, while I feel TERRIBLE for the parents, why on Earth would you let your toddler swim in gator-infested waters?
 
BCClone said:
If if they don't allow swimming, might best to try to drain it and put a few resorts there. The boat ride wasn't that great.
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Disney World is 27,000 acres and they only use like 1/4 of the land. They don't need the space but I see your point, I just don't see Disney draining the lake. They still have boating and fireworks cruises on that lake that are very popular.
 
Angie said:
I don't know anything about this hotel - is it billed as you being right there with the animals? If so, I'd gather there's an insane amount of signage warning guests of the gators if they don't allow people to swim here?

If not, Disney is hugely liable here. If so, while I feel TERRIBLE for the parents, why on Earth would you let your toddler swim in gator-infested waters?
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No, the gators are not part of the hotel. Even the hotel that has wildlife as part of the hotel (Animal Kingdom Lodge) has huge barriers (electric and physical) to keep animals away from guests. Back to the hotel where the gator attack was, there is signage warning of alligators but I can still see Disney being sued.
 
Angie said:
I don't know anything about this hotel - is it billed as you being right there with the animals? If so, I'd gather there's an insane amount of signage warning guests of the gators if they don't allow people to swim here?

If not, Disney is hugely liable here. If so, while I feel TERRIBLE for the parents, why on Earth would you let your toddler swim in gator-infested waters?
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It's just a hotel on the lake, I think probably the most expensive one at the resort, but it's Victorian themed and not really anything to do with animals. The Animal Kingdom Resort would be the one billed as bringing people close to animals.

And the kid wasn't swimming in the water, they were out for a movie night near the beach and the kid was standing near the edge of the water like I'm sure millions of kids have done in the past.

I personally don't see that Disney is all that liable, it's Florida, there's damn near more gators than people in that swampy hell-hole.
 
CysRage said:
Terrible. I always feel for these families who have something tragic like this happen on vacation. I'm a huge Disney fan and I can't recall another alligator attack in the park's 45 year history. There have been issues with amoeba bacteria killing people who swim in the Seven Seas Lagoon but no gator attacks I'm aware of.
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This. There are no swimming signs posted at all three of the resorts in the Seven Seas lagoon, but they were placed there because of the amoeba that, not gators. 10 or 15 years ago you could swim at all of them. If I recall, Disney actually staffed life guards on those beaches.

The Disney World property is massive, and there are bodies of water everywhere. I have never seen a gator there. I would assume Disney does their best to remove them, but it would be impossible to ensure that there are never gators on the property.

Tragic event for all involved.
 
3TrueFans said:
It's just a hotel on the lake, I think probably the most expensive one at the resort, but it's Victorian themed and not really anything to do with animals. The Animal Kingdom Resort would be the one billed as bringing people close to animals.

And the kid wasn't swimming in the water, they were out for a movie night near the beach and the kid was standing near the edge of the water like I'm sure millions of kids have done in the past.

I personally don't see that Disney is all that liable, it's Florida, there's damn near more gators than people in that swampy hell-hole.
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I didn't hear the exact details, so thanks for some insight. I just heard it's not a place folks are supposed to swim.

So sad. It's built on a swamp, so probably very difficult to keep all animals at bay...but if there was this much interaction/accessibility of guests you'd think they'd have some measures in place.
 
CysRage said:
No, the gators are not part of the hotel. Even the hotel that has wildlife as part of the hotel (Animal Kingdom Lodge) has huge barriers (electric and physical) to keep animals away from guests. Back to the hotel where the gator attack was, there is signage warning of alligators but I can still see Disney being sued.
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3TrueFans said:
It's just a hotel on the lake, I think probably the most expensive one at the resort, but it's Victorian themed and not really anything to do with animals. The Animal Kingdom Resort would be the one billed as bringing people close to animals.

And the kid wasn't swimming in the water, they were out for a movie night near the beach and the kid was standing near the edge of the water like I'm sure millions of kids have done in the past.

I personally don't see that Disney is all that liable, it's Florida, there's damn near more gators than people in that swampy hell-hole.
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Thanks, guys - I missed the movie part while I was trying to search for more info about the hotel itself in the article. I googled the name of the hotel + "signage" and couldn't see anything. Just lots of PR photos of the amenities.

I'm sure that the family will sue, and it being Disney, I'm sure they'll settle at some level, even if their liability is minimal.
 
3TrueFans said:
It's just a hotel on the lake, I think probably the most expensive one at the resort, but it's Victorian themed and not really anything to do with animals. The Animal Kingdom Resort would be the one billed as bringing people close to animals.

And the kid wasn't swimming in the water, they were out for a movie night near the beach and the kid was standing near the edge of the water like I'm sure millions of kids have done in the past.

I personally don't see that Disney is all that liable, it's Florida, there's damn near more gators than people in that swampy hell-hole.
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I would think they are liable. It is their property, which they are charging you to stay. If they are not warning people about gators on the property and give the appearance of a safe place to be - then i would say they are pretty liable.
 
So the Dad tried to save the son and couldn't then just let the gator take the son away? Am I missing something? I don't see how the kid could be alive sorry to say. Having two young children, the thought makes me sick to my stomach.
 
mj4cy said:
So the Dad tried to save the son and couldn't then just let the gator take the son away? Am I missing something? I don't see how the kid could be alive sorry to say. Having two young children, the thought makes me sick to my stomach.
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You don't let alligators do anything, alligators do whatever the **** they want.
 
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