Gabe Kalscheur Commits

[Acylum]

I’d love for TJ to have some similar hits. I’d also love for him to bring in some 4 year players to have a base. The biggest key is development. Prohm couldn’t do it, and didn’t hire a staff that could. Can TJ and his staff develop and be more well rounded at recruiting? We’ll see. I’m not just going to blindly say he/they can’t.

I don’t think Prohm recruited TH and THT thinking they’d be two and done and one and done. Recruiting at the P6 level right now has to be as difficult as ever. As has been pointed out ad infinitum, his top guys were way good, but the drop off to the next level was horrible. I don’t think you can pass up the potential players that could leave early. Take Fran for example, his strategy, recruiting already older HS players, none of whom are any threat to leave early for the NBA, having some of them RS, keeping them all happy enough to stick around, and having a team avg age of 22+ only worked because he fell into a generational talent whose Dad coached up. Obviously there’s a middle ground, but you’ve still got to keep everybody happy so they stick around. Look how shocked the Hawk fans are whenever they do have a transfer.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

It’s remarkable the revisionist history that happens. After landing Foster EVERYONE here was singing the praises of what a great recruiter Prohm was.

 

[brett108]

How about Moser from Loyola? Or do you think a coach who has led Loyola to 2 final fours in the last 3 years is worth even contacting?

Mid majors fail at this level all the time. What kids want to play for Moser? No ones going to want to play his slow it down system. We’ll get to see first hand what Moser can do at this level. I don’t think he’ll be a success.

 

[AuH2O]

Wasn’t Eustachy known for 58-53 types of games?

Honest question, he was right at the beginning of my fandom.

I remember some incredibly loud games in Hilton during the Floyd and Eustachy eras.

 

[CyLyte2]

It’s remarkable the revisionist history that happens. After landing Foster EVERYONE here was singing the praises of what a great recruiter Prohm was.

I wasn’t here so.....

 

[Acylum]

Wasn’t Eustachy known for 58-53 types of games?

Honest question, he was right at the beginning of my fandom.

Floyd more so.

 

[brett108]

I don’t think Prohm recruited TH and THT thinking they’d be two and done and one and done. Recruiting at the P6 level right now has to be as difficult as ever. As has been pointed out ad infinitum, his top guys were way good, but the drop off to the next level was horrible. I don’t think you can pass up the potential players that could leave early. Take Fran for example, his strategy, recruiting already older HS players, none of whom are any threat to leave early for the NBA, having some of them RS, keeping them all happy enough to stick around, and having a team avg age of 22+ only worked because he fell into a generational talent whose Dad coached up. Obviously there’s a middle ground, but you’ve still got to keep everybody happy so they stick around. Look how shocked the Hawk fans are whenever they do have a transfer.

Prohm is an example of hitting gold on 4 stars, but never getting a 3 star to develop. His 4 star guys were better than advertised. But his three star kids couldn’t even make a D3 roster. He missed far more often than he hit.

 

[madguy30]

Yes, this I agree with, though I would still stay his rosters weren’t so unconventional that a good coach couldn’t make it work.

Most coaches could have gotten much more for sure.

That's the foundational piece. It's like CPR when the dust settled...what does the team or program do?

 

[brett108]

I like that TJ brought in a young and upcoming guard coach who excels at offense, and a veteran post coach who excels at defense. I understand keeping Robinson to keep Hunter, Foster, and Hinson among others in the fold.

He and Robinson are good friends from all accounts. So it makes sense in a lot of ways.

 

[Cyforce]

Floyd more so.

Willoughby is just about my favorite Clone ever. I remember him being so clutch but when you look at his numbers they aren't as impressive. The reason is scoring against that team was basically like going to war.

 

[rochclone]

Wasn’t Eustachy known for 58-53 types of games?

Honest question, he was right at the beginning of my fandom.

That was more Tim Floyd. LE played a pretty uptempo pace.

 

[Acylum]

Willoughby is just about my favorite Clone ever. I remember him being so clutch but when you look at his numbers they aren't as impressive. The reason is scoring against that team was basically like going to war.

One of the toughest skinny guys that ever played for us. He and Jacy.

 

[brett108]

Willoughby is just about my favorite Clone ever. I remember him being so clutch but when you look at his numbers they aren't as impressive. The reason is scoring against that team was basically like going to war.

The second most notable player on that team could dunk and block any shot in a 5 foot radius of himself. That is what you call defensively oriented...

 

[mynameisjonas]

@rochclone just sent me this pm

“What exactly your deal is? If you actually attend football games we should meet up in the fall and get a few things figured out.”

Hmmm.....

 

[Cyforce]

@rochclone just sent me this pm

“What exactly your deal is? If you actually attend football games we should meet up in the fall and get a few things figured out.”

Hmmm.....

@CyTwins knows a guy that hires hitmen.

 

[rochclone]

One of the toughest skinny guys that ever played for us. He and Jacy.

The whole team. Shawn Bankhead, Pratt, Jacy, Dedric and Cato. There has probably not been a better team at understanding their distinct roles and executing their coach’s plan.

 

[fcclone]

@rochclone just sent me this pm

“What exactly your deal is? If you actually attend football games we should meet up in the fall and get a few things figured out.”

Hmmm.....

Grab a beer dude.

 

[rochclone]

Grab a beer dude.

Nah. I’m done with him. Tried to discuss some of the issues in a PM. But he isn’t interested in a conversation. The guy has had to change his username on this message board multiple times. He is a troll and he is on ignore.

 

[rochclone]

@CyTwins knows a guy that hires hitmen.

I probably have represented the guy before.

 

[jpete24]

It’s remarkable the revisionist history that happens. After landing Foster EVERYONE here was singing the praises of what a great recruiter Prohm was.

l think Prohm was a solid recruiter, he brought in some of the best NBA talents that Iowa State has seen in THT and TH. I think for the other players that weren't NBA talents though, he had no ability to develop them, and his roster management was poor. He made some poor choices in-game, but management and development of talent hurt him more than any decision in-game.