Future bowl tie ins

This all goes back to the Dan Beebe Big 12 commissioner era. He did NOTHING to improve the conference position. Obviously his role or lack there of in conference realignment is well documented but his lack of effort regarding Big 12 bowl tie ins was pathetic. Bowlsby has done an amazing job patching things up but unfortunately the bowl affiliations are locked in.
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Only P5 with a tie-in to a general G5 (not including American) let alone 2. So many games in Texas; We need more in Phoenix, Cali, or Florida. Unfortunately, this will not change until tie-ins are done away with. Until then we should go the ACC/SEC route and split Big 12 into two divisions playing an 8 conference game schedule and adding a cupcake almost guaranteeing 5 less losses for the overall conference. Heck we may get 9 teams in a bowl if we did this, and have an increased chance of an undefeated team guaranteeing the playoffs. If ACC/SEC won’t get punished for their weak scheduling, then why wouldn’t we take advantage of this as well? As long as the extra ooc game is broadcasted (which is guaranteed with espn+ deal) it would add 1 or 2 bowl game commissions to the conference a year. I love the round robin, but this is business and there is an advantage we are not utilizing.
 
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If ISU were to be offered the Alamo bowl again, do you think we would take it? Would fans want to go there again?

I'd think a lot of this depends upon opponent too. And we haven't won the Alamo yet, so there'd still be the draw to go win it.
 
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The Alamo Bowl says "hi":

PULLMAN AND AMES aren’t exactly big TV markets, and Friday nights usually pull in smallish numbers of viewers. But viewership soared for the No. 12/13 Washington State’s thrilling win over No. 24 Iowa State in the Alamo Bowl.

WSU-Iowa State on Friday night scored 5.547 million viewers, according to Sports Media Watch – up a head-turning 28 percent from last year’s Alamo Bowl, (TCU-Stanford: 4.33 million).

It also represented a 22 percent climb from two years ago (Oklahoma State-Colorado: 4.55 million), and WSU-ISU pulled in the largest audience for the Alamo Bowl since the 2015-16 season (TCU-Oregon: 7.41M).

The ratings for the Dec. 31 and Jan. 1 bowl games aren’t in yet. As of press time, the Alamo Bowl was the most watched non-NY6 bowl game -- fourth out of 27 bowls -- behind the Peach (Florida-Michigan) and the two semifinal playoff games (Cotton: Clemson-Notre Dame) and (Orange: Alabama-Oklahoma).

The announced attendance for the Alamo Bowl was 60,675.

For 2018 and hopefully forward, sure.

But if we are thinking like a bowl committee, ISU on average hasn't been worthy of much consideration because most years we haven't even been in a bowl, and most of our bowl years we were a 6 or 7 win team that wasn't much of a draw.

Let's also note the Alamo bowl numbers are based on two teams as well.. and Mike Leach has his own national following.
 
For 2018 and hopefully forward, sure.

But if we are thinking like a bowl committee, ISU on average hasn't been worthy of much consideration because most years we haven't even been in a bowl, and most of our bowl years we were a 6 or 7 win team that wasn't much of a draw.

Let's also note the Alamo bowl numbers are based on two teams as well.. and Mike Leach has his own national following.

Let's note that in spite of Leach's "following" that Iowa State fans outnumbered WSU fans 5 to 1, at minimum.
 
Let's note that in spite of Leach's "following" that Iowa State fans outnumbered WSU fans 5 to 1, at minimum.

Sure. WSU was also much farther away, and Leach's following isnt limited to WSU supporters. Hell, i know a good number of people on this site tune in to WSU's games simply because of Leach. I know i do.
 
Sure. WSU was also much farther away, and Leach's following isnt limited to WSU supporters. Hell, i know a good number of people on this site tune in to WSU's games simply because of Leach. I know i do.

Not sure what your point is considering all the Leach followers didn't seem to make a difference in the bowl attendance.

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Not sure what your point is considering all the Leach followers didn't seem to make a difference in the bowl attendance.

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I think he was talking about TV ratings, not bowl attendance. Leach has a truly national following that will watch his games no matter who he is coaching.
 
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While all the conferences are going to have a tie in with a G5, I wish we would only have 1, as a few do. I don't thing there would be as many complaints anyway.
I really wish we could replace one of those G5 bowls with say:
Holiday
Independence
Sun
Las Vegas
 
Big 12 Bowl tie-ins not going to change for awhile either:




Looks good to me! The Big Xii has a tie-in with the other P5 Conferences - which is cool. The Sugar Bowl tie-in vs. SEC is so much better than the old Fiesta Bowl tie-in with an open opponent, the Alamo is strong vs. Pac 12, there is a game in Orlando vs. ACC, a game in Arizona vs. B1G, and the Liberty has history and is a close drive for ISU. Only the two Texas Bowls vs. the G5 teams are unappealing, but teams that finish 6th and 7th in a 10 team conference get what they get.
 
Man I wish they'd go back to calling it the Copper Bowl. Then the list would look a lot less "cheezy."
I wish they would do more of keeping the original name but adding the sponsor. Ie... the Cheez it Copper Bowl. Or the Copper Bowl by Cheez it or something like that.

Like some of the bowls have done anyway.
 
While all the conferences are going to have a tie in with a G5, I wish we would only have 1, as a few do. I don't thing there would be as many complaints anyway.
I really wish we could replace one of those G5 bowls with say:
Holiday
Independence
Sun
Las Vegas

3/4 agree. Not Independence. Been there, done that, not a good thing. Also would rather have Florida bowls than too many West coast Bowls. And yes, I know we have none now.
 

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