Friday OT #1 - Rubbing Pennies

My dad and my aunts and uncles on his side were all late-depression-era children. I think we can all excuse them for having some quirks but some of them are pretty funny (and gross.)

My aunt religiously unplugs every electronic device that is not in use. She shuts off the water between toilet visits. She also refused to buy a dryer. She would hang up her laundry in the basement, which later contributed to a mold problem.

My other aunt was SUPER cool but she had this weird thing about using her oven because, in her mind, it was an energy hog. She died a couple years ago and lived in a < 10 y.o. house. The oven had never been used. She got raging mad once when someone made the mistake of turning it on for about 30 seconds. If it couldn't be cooked in the microwave or toaster oven, forget it.

My uncle on that side has some really gross cheap traits. He won't wash sheets until they start changing colors. Disgusting.

Dear Old Dad, may he rest in peace. You all think you love the Cyclones? I guarantee my dad had you beat.

IF we went out to eat, appetizers and desserts were absolutely out of the question. We didn't go to the state fair but yeah, he'd be the dad that would have had me eating snacks out of the car. Constant light bulb patrols, thermostat checks and the like.

My parents made the mistake of buying a heat pump. I think they're better now but back in the 70s they weren't too good. It could barely get the house up to 62 in the winter. When it finally had to be replaced in the 90s and they got a reliable natural gas furnace, his thought was, "Well, we're already used to 62 so, rather than set it at an actual comfortable temperature, let's leave it at 62 and save even more money!" He would NEVER turn on the AC, no matter how hot it was, and doing so was grounds for execution in his mind.

We had an acre yard and he refused to get a lawn tractor. He (and I) mowed it with a push mower, not even self-propelled. Half-hour a day or so just to keep up. The whole yard was never the same length.

This is a doozy: No matter how hard it rained, Dad would keep his windshield wipers on the lowest intermittent setting because he didn't want his wipers to wear out.

Like others, he knew the price of gas at every station in Cedar Rapids, and he wouldn't think twice about driving clear across town to save a penny per gallon.

After he and my mom divorced in 2000, he wouldn't pay for the Gazette because he could no longer get mom's employee discount. He drove to the library every day to read the paper. EVERY day. That's probably where he found out who had the cheapest gas prices too.

Dad refused to buy chilled soda at the store. He was convinced they charged more for it. Maybe back in the day they did, but all he had to do was look at the prices to see they were the same!

Lastly, here are two stories my friends used to love:

We lived just outside of CR and had our own well. One day dad was yelling at me for taking too long in the shower. I said, " You have your own well, your water is free." He replied, "Yeah, well the water pump is ELECTRIC!"

Another time before dad retired we met for lunch at Taco Bell. I ordered a regular combo meal, nothing extravagant, and thought nothing of it. When I got back to the table, he was mortified that I'd ordered "so much food." He had ordered one taco and a glass of water. He said, "You can have a fine meal here for a dollar and eleven cents!"

Yeah, when I have an idea for Friday OT, it's cuz I've got to get some stuff off my chest!
 
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I'll go grocery shopping, and put back a relatively inexpensive item because "$5.99 is too much to pay for a frozen pizza!" but then walk directly over to the meat counter and drop $25-$30 on a couple of steaks and not think anything of it.

I realize the steak is better in damn near every way. But my 6 year old would probably prefer the pizza.
I do the stupid stuff like pass on Lotsa Motsa pizza because it’s expensive but then same day order Casey’s taco pizza
 
@ruxCYtable came through with another great thread idea! Here it is:

What are ridiculous things your parents/grandparents or even you do/did to because they were cheap-ass tightwads?

It wasn't because we were tight wads, but because we were dirt poor, but we used to eat a lot of cabbage, rice and dried beans (not together, but in separate meals) when I was younger. My dad was in the military and had to support two households because we were never allowed to follow him to most of his assignments.
 
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Not super crazy but something I'm fortunate I don't have to consider doing now as an adult is sitting through timeshare presentations for the free buffet breakfast and tickets to a nearby attraction. My grandparents owned a timeshare and my family was invited to join most years. Seemed like every trip included at least one entire morning wasted sitting in a conference room with kids bored out of their minds. But I'm pretty sure that was the only way we got to spend a day at Disney World so I can't complain too much.
 
A lot of these stories remind me of the meme (not wanting to make this political, but you hear this in all walks of life, not just politics) about "wages haven't risen in real terms since the 1970s!"

The implication there being our standard of living hasn't gone up in 40+ years. But hearing all these stories about these older relatives and their penny-pinching ways can only make me think... we are so much richer now that the time and sanity they invested in penny-pinching is not worth it to us.

I have posted this story before, but I will repeat it again --

When my wife's grandfather died, my FIL and me took over the active management month-to-month of her grandmother's finances. Grandmother was a successful attorney for many decades, so this is a pretty significant estate. She is closing in on 90 and in good health and spirits, but managing money was never her thing even when she was younger, so she's in no position to start doing that for herself now.

Grandfather was an impressive man -- submariner in WWII. Some harrowing stories there. Lifelong Packer fan who never missed watching a game from 1946 until he died a few years ago.

Every month, he would collect receipts on EVERY transaction the family made, and he would meticulously check numbers and digits on his checking account and cards for differences. If you went to a café and bought a $2.99 latte, he needed the receipt, or he was going to lose his composure in panic.

It is my understanding that, in all his decades of doing this (and he lived past 90), he never found a problem.

When he died, my FIL and I quickly discovered he had $600,000 just sitting in a near-zero interest checking account. I cannot fathom why. From what I can tell, the money had been in there sitting for some time, which implies he cost the family hundreds of thousands of dollars of investment returns -- if only investing the money in risk-free T-bonds, never mind if he had it in a simple S&P 500 index fund with bull market returns.

Hard to fathom how much he damaged the family's long-term wealth accumulation through such psychotically risk-adverse investing strategies -- but he was SURE no credit card company ever tried to SCREW him. Rest in peace, sailor, but that was a penny wise but many pounds foolish move there.
 
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College Cooler was an expert at the cheap. Sunday meals of Cub Foods samples happened more often than I'm proud of.

Fresh outta college, Totinos party pizza, PB&J and ramen were still in the regular rotation for longer than necessary. We also used to wash out Ziploc bags and reuse them.

These days, I make a big deal about the cost of subscription services (Hulu, Sirius) that I'll use, but have little issue dropping that same amount of money on something stupid on impulse.

I do this regularly, especially for frozen fruit/vegetables. I rinse the bag and then store them flat in the freezer. No reason for a ziplock bag to be one and done.
 
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Definitely ate snacks/ lunch in the car when going to amusement parks. I remember my mom making homemade Halloween costumes for my brother and me. Reused butter/ margarine tubs. Lots of hand me downs. We didn't go out to eat a ton but evidently when I was 4 or 5 we were going to Avanti's (Central IL casual Italian) too much so my mom made a picture book to teach my brother and me the lesson that we can't go out and eat all the time. Reality is you could feed a family of 4 for there for $15-20 in the mid 90's.
 
I do the stupid stuff like pass on Lotsa Motsa pizza because it’s expensive but then same day order Casey’s taco pizza
It's often on sale at Fareway, just saying, and usually no limits.
 
My dad and my aunts and uncles on his side were all late-depression-era children. I think we can all excuse them for having some quirks but some of them are pretty funny (and gross.)

My aunt religiously unplugs every electronic device that is not in use. She shuts off the water between toilet visits. She also refused to buy a dryer. She would hang up her laundry in the basement, which later contributed to a mold problem.

My other aunt was SUPER cool but she had this weird thing about using her oven because, in her mind, it was an energy hog. She died a couple years ago and lived in a < 10 y.o. house. The oven had never been used. She got raging mad once when someone made the mistake of turning it on for about 30 seconds. If it couldn't be cooked in the microwave or toaster oven, forget it.

My uncle on that side has some really gross cheap traits. He won't wash sheets until they start changing colors. Disgusting.

Dear Old Dad, may he rest in peace. You all think you love the Cyclones? I guarantee my dad had you beat.

IF we went out to eat, appetizers and desserts were absolutely out of the question. We didn't go to the state fair but yeah, he'd be the dad that would have had me eating snacks out of the car. Constant light bulb patrols, thermostat checks and the like.

My parents made the mistake of buying a heat pump. I think they're better now but back in the 70s they weren't too good. It could barely get the house up to 62 in the winter. When it finally had to be replaced in the 90s and they got a reliable natural gas furnace, his thought was, "Well, we're already used to 62 so, rather than set it at an actual comfortable temperature, let's leave it at 62 and save even more money!" He would NEVER turn on the AC, no matter how hot it was, and doing so was grounds for execution in his mind.

We had an acre yard and he refused to get a lawn tractor. He (and I) mowed it with a push mower, not even self-propelled. Half-hour a day or so just to keep up. The whole yard was never the same length.

This is a doozy: No matter how hard it rained, Dad would keep his windshield wipers on the lowest intermittent setting because he didn't want his wipers to wear out.

Like others, he knew the price of gas at every station in Cedar Rapids, and he wouldn't think twice about driving clear across town to save a penny per gallon.

After he and my mom divorced in 2000, he wouldn't pay for the Gazette because he could no longer get mom's employee discount. He drove to the library every day to read the paper. EVERY day. That's probably where he found out who had the cheapest gas prices too.

Dad refused to buy chilled soda at the store. He was convinced they charged more for it. Maybe back in the day they did, but all he had to do was look at the prices to see they were the same!

Lastly, here are two stories my friends used to love:

We lived just outside of CR and had our own well. One day dad was yelling at me for taking too long in the shower. I said, " You have your own well, your water is free." He replied, "Yeah, well the water pump is ELECTRIC!"

Another time before dad retired we met for lunch at Taco Bell. I ordered a regular combo meal, nothing extravagant, and thought nothing of it. When I got back to the table, he was mortified that I'd ordered "so much food." He had ordered one taco and a glass of water. said, "You can have a fine meal here for a dollar and eleven cents!"

Yeah, when I have an idea for Friday OT, it's cuz I've got to get some stuff off my chest!
My father was bad, but not THAT bad. And he actually loosened up as he got into senior citizen status. But I think he could literally not get pleasure from anything that was, in his mind, extravagant: because all the time he was supposed to be enjoying what he was paying for, it was eating him up on the inside because of the cost.
 
When we visited my grandparents, and then went home, Dad would always call to let them know we made it home OK. But to avoid long distance charges (under-40s can google that) he would only say like 2 words so it was less than a full minute and we didn't get charged the 15 cents.
The original text message: calling someone collect and stating your name as "bethereat8"
 
Grandma saved Cool Whip containers, washed and reused Ziploc bags and bread bags, and saved wrapping paper. However, she insisted you used 5 paper plates at a time for meals.
 
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