Not the only or most important metric but Wins is a pretty important stat at the end of the day. More so a way to judge teams but QBs also.
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Teams, yes. Individual players, no. Wins are completely irrelevant to someone's ability. Trying to put Stanley over Brock because of wins is purely idiotic.
You could go 50/50 and throw for 10 touchdowns and still lose.
Also saw someone else had him 10th. Pretty much unanimous top 11 pick. If you want to go out on a limb and say he'll regress lower than 11th have at it.
I understand that. I'm not putting Stanley over Brock. My point is that when you look back at Stanley's career 27 wins and 3-0 in bowls is a pretty good stat by which he will be judged. a 14 win pitcher in baseball might be better than a 20 win pitcher but it doesn't make the win stat irrelevant.
So Stanley benefited from playing on some really good teams. Got it.
The argument was about Stanley as a player. Your argument is about Iowa as a team. Two totally different things.
As well as agree "wins" is a horrible metric for a quarterback.
Common ground. I like it.
I think a 100% healthy Beathard was better than Stanley. Not so sure about the 80% Beathard that battled injuries.
It works for ISU fans to take the highest projection out there and use it as the bar to be compared to. Why wouldn't Iowa fans follow suit?
I would rather see Petras lead Iowa to 30 wins the next 3 years as a starter than I would see him pass for 15,000 yards and 100 touchdowns and win 24 games.
Sure, because you're a fan of a team, not the player.
But you're moving the goalposts completely. My prior responses were in reference to someone trying to compare Brock and Stanley as individual players by their wins. That's nonsense.