F the refs and F Baylor

Agreed, but the refs set the tone of the game early on, which was tough for us to get over. Which I think affected us in the second half.

Something to learn from, but still disappointing.
Disagree it had any impact on the 2nd half. We started with the ball and an opportunity to take the lead. Proceeded to lay eggs and dig a deeper hole simply because Baylor was flat out better.
 
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Where do I get this TV package where I can see all of the camera angles from the truck?
You have to pay thousands of dollars, and then they let you sit in the truck. Quite nice actually. biggest problem is that those nerds don't shower every day. Take some vicks vapor rub with you and dot just under your nose if needed.
 
For anyone to say the terrible calls didn't affect the outcome of the game or weren't one-sided, they don't know what they're talking about. That's why the ISU coaches reacted the way they did. They knew how bad these calls were and how they were affecting the players/game. Most calls negated a big stop for the defense that had Baylor facing 3rd or 4th down situations that favored ISU. 3 of their 4 TD drives were aided in big penalties. Baylor only had 3 penalties called and one, holding, was meaningless on the kick return just before the half.
As for the targeting call, we were traveling at the beginning of the game and could only find the Baylor broadcast on XM radio on the first drive. They couldn't believe it was called targeting and kept saying it. Then watching the replay the ESPN crew talked about it several times throughout the game saying "the Iowa state coaches (or fans) have to be wondering where's the targeting call on Baylor for that hit." It has to be pretty bad when the other team's broadcasters say you got screwed.
 
Is Beau back for the KU game. I think he should be.
He only would have had to sit out the first half of KU if his targeting would have been in the second half. The best time to get a targeting penalty is at the end of a half since you are thrown out for the remainder of that half and the next half. He got thrown out at the absolute worst time, the beginning of the first half so he was missed for the entirety of one game. Probably would have been marginally better if the start of the second half since it they would have only missed him for half of this game and half of the next game.
 
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Thanks. That is what I remembered but I heard comments he would miss more. Appreciate it.
 
I think this “rigged” talk looks bad on a fanbase that has a reputation for complaining about refs too much as it is. And, many of the same people are the ones that 2 weeks ago laughed for days at the Hawks for complaining about the reffing.

Yeah, there were some bad bad calls, but that is football. The team didn’t respond the way they needed to and the better team won. I may be on an island, but the targeting was targeting by the rule – and how I’ve seen it called a lot this season. It may not be the rule that we’d like, but it is the rule we have. I can understand the frustration that a couple later calls could have gone the same way on Baylor, but we still needed to play better regardless.

You can say the refs gave them 14 points, but we also had 2 bad turnovers and struggled to get anything going offensively. Again, we made tons of mistakes in the margins – like every year, despite the constant preaching about it. The only bright spot was Special Teams of all things.

We have a chance to improve this week and get a bounce back win. But, our defense is going to have to be better disciplined against a strong passing attack and our offense is going to have to start playing more downfield and getting better holes inside for our run game. Right now we're very predictable and playing right to what the defense wants/expects.
 
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The officiating was terrible and most calls generally went against us, but were were the recipient of a terrible call that gave us a "chance". No way the video evidence showed that possession was clearly re-established in the end zone. That call had absolutely no business being overturned.

The reality is the officiating didn't come close to costing us this game. We were dominating in both play and scheme at the line of scrimmage. Manning consistently used 5 lineman and Baylor used a 4 man front with wide splits that consistently created pass rush angles. Our tackles were beat with speed the entire game, hanging Dekkers out to dry, yet we made zero adjustments. Manning also continues to abhor using crosses or other "hot routes" that gives his QB options when he needs to throw. When you watch the film our receivers weren't even out of their breaks when the pressure was coming. It was a problem when Purdy was here as well. When what we do offensively isn't working we need to adjust.

The defense wasn't much better. With Rose and Enyi, the 3 man front worked more consistently than it has this year. Even then, we have routinely had issues against the upper echelon competition when it comes to getting some kind of push at the line of scrimmage. This year that push has been harder to come by and we done have a tackling machine like rose taking care of those gaps. Baylor utterly destroyed us at the line of scrimmage and we didn't adjust or have an answer. At some point, we need to consistently have 4 plus guys at the line (different people moving around) as we aren't getting it done with 3 people.

Baylor was the better team and our coaching staff was thoroughly dismantled with strategy. If our staff won't make adjustments when their scheme/plan isn't working it's going to be a long season. The bad calls simply made it more irritating.
 
Uuuhhhhhh…..I saw it live and saw the recovery. The final replay at the game they showed, it was 100% the angle I had and fully obvious he had a knee down and possession. Not sure what they showed on TV.
Disagree it had any impact on the 2nd half. We started with the ball and an opportunity to take the lead. Proceeded to lay eggs and dig a deeper hole simply because Baylor was flat out better.
Well they didn’t reset the scoreboard so I’d argue the 14 fake points continued to affect what ended as a 7 point game.
 


Who knows what replay officials saw. What was shown on tv broadcast was much less clear than that.

At least that image shows a TD (combined with video I have seen) and it wasn’t some huge “break” that partially balanced out Baylor’s fake TDs in first half.
 
Who knows what replay officials saw. What was shown on tv broadcast was much less clear than that.

At least that image shows a TD (combined with video I have seen) and it wasn’t some huge “break” that partially balanced out Baylor’s fake TDs in first half.
Agreed.

Both things can be true of the game. The refs, especially in the first half, were terrible to the point that it affected the game as a whole. Does some of the breakdowns in coverage happen if Beau is in the game still? Debatable. The targeting call / non targeting calls should have all been non calls on both teams. The problem is if the stripes call it one way they need to call it the other.

The second half the defense looked tired at times and Hunter wasn't sharp at times either. Not being able to run the ball put more pressure on him as well. Baylor was the better team in the second half. They seemed to push the ball down the field more then Iowa State for most of the game. I was impressed by their O line as well.

I still think a fair shake of officiating changes the outcome of the game.
 
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I disagree. The refs extended scoring drives for Baylor and I think the early calls affected the aggressiveness the team played with. There was more hesitation in tackling. It was almost like the refs said, okay Iowa State, now you have to play with an arm tied behind your back.
plus, extending their drives tires out our defense. Putting our offense on the field more often or earlier has the opposite effect, their defense gets tired instead of ours.
 

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