Extra year for graduates
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I actually think this is a great idea. I’ve always found it odd that there is a “grad transfer” in place at all anyway. I mean…a person still has a year of eligibility left, but has to go to another school to use it? Why? Especially if the school you are already at has the academic program?
I could be wrong, but I don’t think that’s how it worked in the past. “Grad transfer” didn’t require you to change schools, it just allowed you to not have to sit out a year if you did transfer… all of this would be under the old rules. I don’t think it gave you any extra eligibility either.
I think it is irrelevant now, unless a “grad transfer” would allow you to not have to sit out if it was your SECOND transfer… not sure on that.
The one issue I see with this is that it gives programs another weapon to push athletes into "worthless" majors that will be easy to graduate from in 4 years. Great, the athlete got a degree, but who is going to hire a guy who got his degree in underwater basketweaving?
I’d also require that player attend the same university/not transfer during those 4 years.
how about if they want to use the extra year, they can use it at the same school (unless there is a coaching change).
This is really only going to really apply to role players for the most part, so it would not be that big of deal.
I was wondering the same thing. May not have done exhaustive research on this, but the research I did didn't indicate that a transfer was necessary.
Now that I think about it, I remember seeing that Peyton Manning was a grad student for his fourth year at Tennessee.
Just realized this was about bball, but I don't think they would have different rules for different sports for this.
Probably should tweak this a bit to include students who might do the concurrent MBA degree. They don’t “graduate” in four years, but become graduate students in year four and receive both undergrad and MBA degree in five years.
The “grad transfer” rule allowed a player to play immediately instead of sitting out a year. There was no requirement to transfer after graduating. The rule also no longer applies - each player can transfer once without sitting out now, and after that, regardless of whether they have graduated, they would have to sit a year if they transfer again.
I don’t actively hate Fran’s idea, but, my goodness, think of the poor fools that have to maintain a scholarship chart.
I don’t actively hate Fran’s idea, but, my goodness, think of the poor fools that have to maintain a scholarship chart.
I wouldn't mind giving athletes a 5th graduate year. But would want to make sure they are taking the classes/credits to fulfill the degree program requirements.
Obviously, if athletes are given a 5th year of play, that means fewer scholarships available for HS athletes. Which would be a negative.
Obviously, if athletes are given a 5th year of play, that means fewer scholarships available for HS athletes. Which would be a negative.
Or, hear me out, we just go to 5 year eligibility and move on with it. It's incredibly rare for a kid to not graduate in 4 years since they're all taking summer classes as well. Let's just stop with the 'student-athlete' charade and just put a firm rule in that makes it easier and fair for everyone.
I’d be ok with that if it also meant getting rid of redshirts. Regular and medical.
With all the APs and online courses, the four year student is the old 5 year student, they changed majors a lot or they just like to party. My first kid graduated in 3 and my next should go in 3.5. That is only with one class during the summer for the oldest. If they go summer school, most will hammer it out in three no trouble and have a masters in 5.
Right. Imagine if this had been the rule back then and this guy had been a stud basketball player. He was at ISU for the entirety of Johnny’s tenure.
He’s a colleague of my brother on the DePaul faculty and we knew him when we were undergrads in the late 80s.
I went 4.5 years, and yes I changed majors once and definitely liked to party. When I was asked to consider graduate school by a couple professors, I just said that I'm tired of school and want to be done along with having a job lined up. I think 5-6 years may have put me in the looney bin.
Agreed. You get 5 years. Full stop.
I don't love medical redshirts anyway because, unfortunately, sometimes life isn't fair.
It’s an opportunity to make things more consistent and one less thing the incredibly inconsistent NCAA can rule on. I’m also tired of the redshirting conversations. I’m sure neither will happen but if they went to five years of eligibility for everyone, I’d like to remove any redshirting.