Sales Pitch discussion -- How Baylor became Baylor, and can Kansas return to being Kansas?
ESPN's panel talks Big 12 recruiting, including Baylor's and Kansas' places in the title picture and the league's new coaches.
ESPN with a BIG XII breakdown,....and some luv
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I'm still puking in my mouth a little over Baylor winning a Natty.
We gotta long hill to climb and don't know if Otz will get it done, but I do believe we'll have a lot of fun trying.
We gotta long hill to climb and don't know if Otz will get it done, but I do believe we'll have a lot of fun trying.
The continuing hate on Baylor is perhaps understandable but that team was a joy to watch.
I agree with that. Their team last year was so fun to watch. Reminded me of ISU's 2000 team but without the horse inside in Fizer. Elite guard play and really tough.
As much as I dislike their program, I like Drew. I'm happy the guy is having success just wish it was at any other program.
Regarding Otz, the dudes words have matched his actions so far. He says a lot of the right things, the question is, will his actions follow that? So far, it appears they will. I love the energy he brings and the adapt or die mind-set. He may take his lumps learning the ropes, but at the same time, I'm glad he's coached quite a bit before he got here so he learned many lessons elsewhere.
His hire scared me a little bit at first, but he is surrounded by successful people and they seem to like him. That's a very good sign. Success creates success.
I thought it was interesting that when Peterson and Hines had the Vegas sportswriter on, he said TJ was good at XO and struggled some recruiting. That’s kind of the opposite of our concerns. I think his recruiting has been really good. XOs I think is yet to be determined because his best years at SDSU he had by far the best player on the court most games.
It was a weird quick hire but ISU has bottomed out and at the very least someone who understands the program and genuinely sells it is needed.
Let's see a start with teams getting a challenge at Hilton.
"Fortunately for Cyclones fans, Otzelberger has plenty of experience in that department -- he was an assistant at Iowa State for eight years, four of those coming under Hoiberg."
"Otzelberger already knows what to do, as Jeff says, and will identify top players and promote the rowdy atmosphere on the team's home floor and its great facilities."
Uhhhhh,.....did you read it?
The hiring speed seemed questionable at the time, but looking at things in the end it didn't really feel like there were that many great options anyway so i'm not sure we ultimately lost out on much by not doing a longer process.
I've almost never seen a team look so dominant in the Final Four. It was something to marvel at.. Drew is damn good. North Carolina may regret not making a run for him.
I did. I guess we just disagree on what “love” is. I don’t think it’s a section that mentions “the other new coaches” and then gives them the writer’s blueprint for success.
I had read that information on UNLV boards as well. But remember, SDSU was his first gig. Lots of things can change in a short period of time when you have an intelligent person running the ship.
I often recall a Phil Mickelson quote about changing things up on a golf course when you're not hitting it well. He said you change small things out there, you don't just wait for the driving range. That's how the greats do it. They tinker constantly. We are seeing it with Campbell, I hope we see it with TJ. It can be frustrating at times, but you gotta suffer before you get to where you want to be.
Nick Nurse says Xs & Os is about 10% of successful coaching. He seems to know something about successful coaching. Read his book.
Yeah I’m not reading that. I do agree that actual Xs and Os is a small part. The bigger part is overall scheme, recruiting to that scheme,and getting players to buy into roles.
Really it's hard to tell but I'm curious to see if player buy in is noticeably improved.