Ejim vs Gilstrap
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Good question. I think I'd go with Ejim, as he plays within himself, and within the team concept. He also has a calm and maturity about him that is well beyond his years.
In fact, if I was picking one of them to build a team around, it would be Ejim for sure.
In fact, if I was picking one of them to build a team around, it would be Ejim for sure.
Very tough question... Gilstrap was explosive, but often times could get careless while trying to create. Ejim takes high percentage shots, and doesn't try to do more than what he is capable of.... Edge goes to Ejim
The question was if there was a game to win tomorrow.....
you go Gilstrap.
But Ejim has a WAY...... higher ceiling for potential than Gilstrap IMO
you go Gilstrap.
But Ejim has a WAY...... higher ceiling for potential than Gilstrap IMO
That is where I struggle... Do I take Gilstrap's potential to explode for points along with his turnovers or do I take Ejim's steady play?
Right now, Gilstrap averaged 2 pts/game more and averaged 2 reb/game more. BUT he averaged 2 more turnovers and Ejim is averaging double in steals.
And let's be realistic, Gilstrap was asked to score points where as Ejim is being asked to be more of a role player right now.
Tomorrow, I would take Gilstarp. A few years from now, there is no question in my mind I'm probably going to rather have Ejim
I am going with Gilstrap being coached by Hoiberg. You have to realize how all the players that returned and look good this year(Garret, Chistopherson, JVB) looked pretty pathetic playing for McD. Wesley Johnson looked unoccupied most of the time his two years here, then he transferred and was an instant AA. I am pretty sure Brackins and Gilstrap playing for Hoiberg, with a little Lutz assistance, would be top Big 12 performers. Gilstrap was also more proficient at rebounding, longer than Ejim, and all around better at the 4(where I think Ejim is better at the 3). Since we need a 4 more than a 3, I am going with Gilstrap.
CycloneErik
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Gilstrap. No question about it. Ejim has been great and is a better ball handler than Gilstrap but he is still raw when taking it to the hoop. I think Gilstrap would have been a better fit for this get out and run offense. Plus he shoots the 3 a little better than Ejim at this point.
With that said, Ejim will be a better player when he is a junior than Gilstrap was as a senior. Both good players who I am glad where/are Cyclones
With that said, Ejim will be a better player when he is a junior than Gilstrap was as a senior. Both good players who I am glad where/are Cyclones
Gilstrap would've been awesome in FH's offense. Great rebounder, fast on the break, and could finish. How many times did we watch Gilstrap try to drive a clogged lane? He'd be a completely different player under FH. I like Ejim too, just hard to compare given how different the offenses were.
Ejim shoots 3% higher FT than Gilstrap. I don't think that is a good piece to the argument.
Gilstrap averaged 9 rebounds and we played at a slower pace last year and had Craig Brackins. He would average 11 rebounds at this point this year IMO.
Gilstrap was a stronger as he should be being 4 years older than Ejim.
Gilstrap was a tad more athletic (vertically) and could do really well with the improved spacing that this ISU team has over last year.
So this year it is Gilstrap. Going forward Ejim is the better looking prospect
Gilstrap averaged 9 rebounds and we played at a slower pace last year and had Craig Brackins. He would average 11 rebounds at this point this year IMO.
Gilstrap was a stronger as he should be being 4 years older than Ejim.
Gilstrap was a tad more athletic (vertically) and could do really well with the improved spacing that this ISU team has over last year.
So this year it is Gilstrap. Going forward Ejim is the better looking prospect
Athleticism = push
Ball handling = Ejim
Defender = Ejim
Rebounder = push, although I think Ejim is a much better offensive rebounder.
Shooter = Ejim has the much better stroke
Decision maker = EJIM. Gilstrap forced way too much.
Ball handling = Ejim
Defender = Ejim
Rebounder = push, although I think Ejim is a much better offensive rebounder.
Shooter = Ejim has the much better stroke
Decision maker = EJIM. Gilstrap forced way too much.
Ejim.
Gilstrap had a tendency to go all Leeroy Jenkins any time he touched the ball on the offensive court. I think I maybe saw him pass the ball back out like twice.
Gilstrap had a tendency to go all Leeroy Jenkins any time he touched the ball on the offensive court. I think I maybe saw him pass the ball back out like twice.
Gilstrap would have been a rebounding machine on this team. I also think Gilstrap had a pretty good stroke - maybe better than Ejim's. And Gilstrap had some great games against top teams. Ejim struggled against the two best teams we've played so far this year. So I think the edge has to go to Gilstrap although I agree with you about Ejim being the better decision maker.
Wow I disagree.
Athleticism is definitely in favor of Gilstrap. Remember his dunks on Aldrich? His verticle was higher than Ejim's
Ball handling I agree
Defender is a push. Both are ok
Rebounder is a huge lean to Gilstrap. He averaged almost 10 boards last year on a team that had Craig Brackins. Imagine him this year.
Shooter is Gilstrap for this year. Ejim has the potential to be better but Gilstrap can get his shot off when he wants easier and shot a higher % from 3.
Decision maker I will give you Ejim but I think a lot of it has to do with the style of play
People need to remember that Gilstrap was the ONLY player in the Big 12 to average a double double in conference play. He averaged 15 and 10!
If Gilstrap is wiling to play the 4, and not need the ball to impact the team, then for now I would take Gilstrap.
Melvin is doing okay as a 6-5 freshman power forward though.
Melvin is doing okay as a 6-5 freshman power forward though.