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clonedude

clonedude

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What does everyone think our 2-3 deeps will look like this fall? I've heard some rumblings about McDonough being moved to DE?

How about this....

NG: Frere, Rump, Black
DT: Alburtis, Johnson, Walter Woods
RE: Lyle, Laing, McDonough, Martin, Moore?
LE: Parker, Maggitt, Moore?
MLB: Smith, Scmidgall, Klein
WLB: Garrin, Taufou?, Princeton Jackson
SLB: Raven, Knott, Justin Rumple
LCB: Leonard Johnson, McDowell, Jeremy Reeves
RCB: Kennard Banks, Benton, Jaques Washington
FS: Smith, Bell, O'Connell, Linder
SS: Sims, Sandvig, Land

I included Aaron Moore on the D-line. I don't know if he'll play there, and if he does, I didn't know if he'd be a DE or DT? I also threw Reeves and Washington in there at corners, but I wasn't sure if that was truly their positions or not?

Other than that... it looks like we have some depth... I'm just not certain how good our starters really are?

The other OBVIOUS concern is the LB position where Jesse Smith, Josh Raven, Fred Garrin, and Derec Schmidgall are all seniors! Getting Taufou? was big for us. I think Klein, Knott, and Jackson will be good down the road for us, but we need to recruit the LB position big time this year.

Same goes for DE. Lyle and Parker are seniors. We HAVE to go out and recruit the DE position in a big way.

Our defense gave up like 36 pts per game last year. That is just plain awful and completely unacceptable. If we don't improve on that this year, we will be 2-10 again. If we can get that down to 26 or so... I think we can outscore a lot of teams. Our defense will not be our strength... I think we all know that. But hopefully they can be just good enough for our offense to outscore people? I think that will be the question this year.

Thoughts?
 
I agree that getting Taufoou was huge for us and will most likely be starting at some point this year at OLB. I don't know whether or not Klien, Knott, or Jackson will be able to come in and contribute this year, DL and LB are two positions that very rarely will a freshman come in and be in impact player, their bodies just aren't quite ready for the rigors of a D1 game, unless they are a huge stud. As for DE, I agree we need to recruit it hard, problem is, awesome DE's are prime recruits and are in high demand, hopefully we can evaluate good talent and find some surprising guys.
 
I think that Taufoou is going to beat out either Garrin or Raven eventually. Next year is where we are really hurt by Ferguson and Bell leaving. They are going to have to bring in another JUCO or two (hopefully for the spring) and then plan on guys like Princeton Jackson, Klein, Knott, Hamlin and Taufoou being ready to go. I still think that Knott could end up at DE though.

At DE, I really like the future of Maggitt and Laing. I assume that McDonough may move back and forth between DE and DT depending on the down and distance. They still have Taylor Martin coming in and I assume Willie Scott will be at DE.

Just my opinion, but I think that the offense is OK talent wise, but the D needs work. I'd go all HS players on O, but with the D, I'd recruit half JUCOs (hopefully some 3 year kids) to get the talent level back up. I think that they'll need some immediate help at DE, LB, NG and FS.
 
Watching Princeton Jackson play a couple of games last year I think he is completely underrated. He may be the best athlete we have coming in in my opinion. I see him getting some minutes this year and being huge for us in the future. Think Ace Bowen with possibly better speed.
 
Thanks for the input everyone!

I actually am surprised that our depth wasn't worse than this, however, I still don't think we have very many Big 12 caliber starters on this side of the ball. We'll be going into the season with a lot of unproven players starting on defense.

Outside of Leonard Johnson, I'm not sure how many of our defensive starters would start for any other Big 12 team? Maybe Lyle... and hopefully Sims will prove to be that kind of player? Frere could also probably start for a few Big 12 programs? But we're still a long ways away from having the talent we need IMO.

But like I said... I'm VERY excited about the capability of our offense this year. If they can put up the kinds of numbers that Rice did a year ago... our defense will only have to be average for us to get 6 or 7 wins IMO.
 
cyfan964 said:
Watching Princeton Jackson play a couple of games last year I think he is completely underrated. He may be the best athlete we have coming in in my opinion. I see him getting some minutes this year and being huge for us in the future. Think Ace Bowen with possibly better speed.
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Best pickup in the entire class in my opinion.
 
I just know that our D as a whole needs to improve 10 fold..... however Jesse Smith is the one I am looking to have to step it up...Good run stopper..Pass coverage on any person on the offense is questionable.
 
Jesse Smith may not be the best in pass coverage, but he gets way too much grief for poor safety play and other backers who rarely make play.

In other words, Jesse Smith is the least of our worries. I just hope as clearly our best backer that he stays healthy.
 
D UP Clones said:
Jesse Smith may not be the best in pass coverage, but he gets way too much grief for poor safety play and other backers who rarely make play.

In other words, Jesse Smith is the least of our worries. I just hope as clearly our best backer that he stays healthy.
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I dont know if hes the best. maybe the best from what had last year. but in the pass happy big 12 he becomes a liability because he cant cover any one in pass coverage. saying this i hope a newbie steps up to be the best
 
I think it was the KSU game where I noticed he was reacting and moving fairly well in coverage. He was just a half step out of position on a couple big plays and Freeman was laser-precise on his throws, which made things look worse than they really were.
 
Jesse Smith is definitely an over achiever and I love his effort. I hope the JUCO guy will help fill the void and smith will still be a run stopper...He reminds me of Gary Plummer...I think he had a Cotstache...
 
D UP Clones said:
according to a friend of mine, Laing sp? did not look like he will ever contibute.
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I really hoped this wouldn't be the case, but I feared it would. He seemed like a BIG reach on Chizik's part. I don't think he played against any kind of competition whatsoever up in Canada.

I guess I'll just have to hold out hope that he can develop into something for us?
 
In college football these days you don't see players on defensive play every snap. The first team may see about 60% of the snaps with a few exceptions both ways.
 
Leonard Johnson is obviously the #1 stud on the D, but I am so pumped that Kennard Banks will be back covering the other side of the field opposite LJ. I knew his arm injury was a huge loss early in the year. Hopefully all players will be 100% and ready to go.
 
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