Cy-Hawk Dual

No, I'm asserting that the poster doesn't know them, and is trying to smear them based on hearsay. It doesn't get much worse than "not good people." That's different than criticizing their antics on the edge of the mat, or calling out their coaching, or criticizing their speaking, or any of the other stuff that people say. Personally, I think that Kevin Dresser, Doug Schwab, and Tom Brands are all basically good people. As for their coaching, well, we all have opinions.
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No, I'm asserting that the poster doesn't know them, and is trying to smear them based on hearsay. It doesn't get much worse than "not good people." That's different than criticizing their antics on the edge of the mat, or calling out their coaching, or criticizing their speaking, or any of the other stuff that people say. Personally, I think that Kevin Dresser, Doug Schwab, and Tom Brands are all basically good people. As for their coaching, well, we all have opinions.
It doesn't get much worse than "not good people"? That's what trips your trigger?
 
No, I'm asserting that the poster doesn't know them, and is trying to smear them based on hearsay. It doesn't get much worse than "not good people." That's different than criticizing their antics on the edge of the mat, or calling out their coaching, or criticizing their speaking, or any of the other stuff that people say. Personally, I think that Kevin Dresser, Doug Schwab, and Tom Brands are all basically good people. As for their coaching, well, we all have opinions.
Are you related to one of them?
 
No, I'm asserting that the poster doesn't know them, and is trying to smear them based on hearsay. It doesn't get much worse than "not good people." That's different than criticizing their antics on the edge of the mat, or calling out their coaching, or criticizing their speaking, or any of the other stuff that people say. Personally, I think that Kevin Dresser, Doug Schwab, and Tom Brands are all basically good people. As for their coaching, well, we all have opinions.
I don't think the Brands brothers are as bad as Kirk Ferentz but they're still pretty awful human beings
 
They weren’t drunk, think about that. They didn’t drink and were just crazy.

No kidding? Could've sworn there were a couple of stories where they were but it's been 30 years and my memory sucks so I could be misremembering.

If they weren't then that's even scarier.
 
Im with you maybe it’s because I’ve had the chance to talk to the guy a few more times. He gets after it on the sidelines rides the refs will say some stuff back and forth to coaching staffs but does it within reason. He wouldn’t be one to snub a wrestlers handshake, wouldn’t run into the opponents side, etc. He’s passionate about his team and the sport…not someone who’s actively trying to start **** with the other team.
Fair enough.
UNI is “Iowa light” , or “Diet Iowa”, if you will.
 
I open a wrestling thread and I'm reading about someone being bent out of shape about saying someone is "not a good person"? I know you wrestling people haven't gotten that soft, have you? Or is it just the ones that wear black and gold?
 
I was talking about this with somebody today.

For reference, one of my first memories of watching wrestling was the night Randy Lewis dislocated his elbow wrestling Jim Gibbons, so I've watched the vast majority of Iowa's truly great wrestlers of the Gable era forward and even more of them in the YouTube age. Barry Davis didn't do that crap, and neither did Randy Lewis. The Banachs? Nope. Kistlers? Zaleskys? Goldman, Chipperelli or Heffernan? Negative. They were physical as hell and took no prisoners, but they were never dirty and they did their talking on the mat.

It didn't start until the Brands boys came to town. They showed up at a time when Iowa had just had their streak snapped and had lost a little of their mojo, so I think Gable was ok with it as long as it came with their return to the top. It's just grown from there and now it's manifested to where we are today. Last night was a new low, and I only expect it to get worse. Someday it's going to break down into an all out donnybrook and they'll have no one to blame but themselves...of course that won't stop them from throwing out their standard kid on the playground defense of, "yeah, well he started it!"
Which is why as much as I dislike Cael for taking the easy way out, I always smile when PSU beats down Hawks.
 
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Just took a look on HR, other than a violent elbow to the back of their innocent 133 pounder's head not much happened last night
 
Which is why as much as I dislike Cael for taking the easy way out, I always smile when PSU beats down Hawks.

No reason to dislike Cael for what he did. The situation at that time financially was way different than now. Plus of all the good things he did do for us and the fact that he doesn’t act like those monkeys no matter how much they win is another reason.
I too enjoy watch long them beat Iowa.
 
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