Under this scenario, you would play a team like Arizona State once at home every 18 years. Hard pass.
Conference Schedules Post Realignment
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Under this scenario, you would play a team like Arizona State once at home every 18 years. Hard pass.
You make sure the original five play each other every year and the rest of the conference can ******* deal with it and play whoever. That’s your ******* “protected rivalries”
Don't see any reason to reinvent the wheel. The flex model seemed to satisfy the Big 10 members, don't know why it wouldn't work in Big 12.
Most Big 12 rivalries left when previous members left so there aren't a ton left to protect. The more often you play everyone, the better chance you have in creating new rivalries naturally.
Most Big 12 rivalries left when previous members left so there aren't a ton left to protect. The more often you play everyone, the better chance you have in creating new rivalries naturally.
Yep. Just take something similar to the B1G or ACC's announced scheduling models. They are the best way forward. It'll work itself out.
I don't care too much about how they set it up so long as we get Farmaggedon every year and I'd prefer to play the Big 8 teams as much as possible.
The B1G’s model is perfect - you protect the real rivalries, you can do the temporary protected game things to make the schedule work, and you play everyone over a 2 year cycle.
ISU should get KU and K-State protected under the B1G’s model and it would be perfect.
The Arizona State AD said the Big 12 will “probably” use divisions. I think that’s a mistake.
If they did this, it’d be for travel reasons, so I think they’d go East/West:
UCF
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State
Houston
—
TCU
Baylor
Texas Tech
Colorado
Utah
BYU
Arizona
Arizona State
This alignment would at least allow you not to do any protected rivalries, meaning you’d play your division plus 2 of the other 8 on a 4-year rotation.
If they did this, it’d be for travel reasons, so I think they’d go East/West:
UCF
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State
Houston
—
TCU
Baylor
Texas Tech
Colorado
Utah
BYU
Arizona
Arizona State
This alignment would at least allow you not to do any protected rivalries, meaning you’d play your division plus 2 of the other 8 on a 4-year rotation.
Just be careful giving, say a West Virginia, an annual rival in all of the hotbeds of recruiting like Texas, Forida, and Ohio. Meanwhile ISU, KU, and KSU have only midwest and not so hot annual recruiting rivals.
That said, I do not have a best answer and will miss the traditional rivalries.
That said, I do not have a best answer and will miss the traditional rivalries.
Im not the biggest fan of divisions but it does solve a couple issues.
1) probably eases PAC minds who want to minimize travel to WVU/UCF/Cincy
2) who is Arizona States protected rivalries? Arizona, Utah, and who? Colorado will have a ton of teams wanting a rivalry. And you’re forcing fake rivalries on UCF (which i guess they already have a history of)
1) probably eases PAC minds who want to minimize travel to WVU/UCF/Cincy
2) who is Arizona States protected rivalries? Arizona, Utah, and who? Colorado will have a ton of teams wanting a rivalry. And you’re forcing fake rivalries on UCF (which i guess they already have a history of)
Kansas State is priority 1, Kansas is priority 2. Beyond that I don't care as much, though more OSU and CU is better than less.
I won’t guess the other teams, but I don’t think Kansas, KSU, and cincy is a long shot.
I think WVU and ISU are the closest teams to Cincy. Plus I think games in ohio every other year will help with Iowa State's recruiting.
I think WVU and ISU are the closest teams to Cincy. Plus I think games in ohio every other year will help with Iowa State's recruiting.
None of us can control it, but, by golly, we're gonna worry about it!
A lot of imbalanced travel in there for the east compared to the west. I'd prefer North/South to even it out.
North:
WV
Cinnci
ISU
KU
KSU
Colorado
BYU
Utah
South:
UCF
Baylor
TCU
Houston
Tech
OSU
Arizona
ASU
I’d put very little stock in those comments. ASU is not going to have a lot of clout, especially with their antics
I don’t know how you can say you want divisions because of travel concerns, and then put West Virginia with the Utah schools and UCF with the Arizona schools. If they do divisions because of travel concerns - which I think is unlikely but is what the ASU Prez said - feels like it’s gotta be East/West
KidSilverhair
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If you’re dead-set on using divisions, then I agree with those proposing the NFL model - go with four divisions of four, rotate the other division you play everybody in, then play the team that had the same finish as you the previous year in the other two divisions.
While it doesn’t guarantee you play everybody any more often than every three years, it provides for a schedule where the good teams get challenged and the weaker teams get competitive games.
Determining your conference champion gets a little tricky, cause you probably don’t want to add an extra semifinal conference game, and using tiebreakers to pick two from your four division winners will just cause arguing.
While it doesn’t guarantee you play everybody any more often than every three years, it provides for a schedule where the good teams get challenged and the weaker teams get competitive games.
Determining your conference champion gets a little tricky, cause you probably don’t want to add an extra semifinal conference game, and using tiebreakers to pick two from your four division winners will just cause arguing.
It’s perfect until a team like tOSU gets left out of the CCG because they played a more difficult schedule than the team that made it. There’s still enough **** teams in that conference that you could end up with a Charmin soft schedule while the best team drops a game with a tough schedule.