Chizik Going After Our Recruits?

Goes with the territory. We're going to get some and we're going to lose some. That would have happened even if Chizik had stayed..


Yeah, let's go out a pick up a few Auburn recruits and exact some revenge on Chiz, hitting him right where it hurts.......that would be wonderful!!
 
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Uhhh..........you know that was like 35 years ago, right?. When offensive linemen weighed in at a whopping 225 lbs. Apples and oranges man.

Uhhhhhh, in 1972, the year Johnny Rodgers won the Heisman, we had a starting linebacker named Matt Blair, 6' 3" and 220 pounds. Are you suggesting that he was big enough 35 years ago to start on the offensive line?

Go Cyclones :yes:
 
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5-9 to 5-10 is one hell of a lot taller than 5-7. i wish rhoads would poach every d#*m recruit he can from auburn ,particularly on defense. i hope he can get the 2-4 brightest assistant coaches from tuberville's staff and some of the auburn recruits come with them-we need some good defensive boy6-0 and 4.3 to 4.4 in the 40 at corners and at safeties. i would like to see them at 200 tto 215 in size.we also need a couple of big horses on the interior defensive line. i think we have some good linebackers that are quick and are fast enough to defense the spread offense which has been made vogue like mike leach at texas tech. about everyone is going to the spread. i think we will be very good on offense this coming year with kids like bo williams and big backs like jerimiah snwartz. i could never understand why chizik never played jj basss and the jason kid that busted the long gainers in the south dakota state team.
why sit bates on the sidelines as fast and big as he was.take some guidance from mark mangino and put your second qb on the field at receiver and at running back like kansas used reesing and meier at receiver. i kept emailing that to chizzlestick to do that and then bates quit on him b4 the baylor game when arnaud had an injured shoulder.
i guess we lost ole squarehead to auburn where he belongs. may the bluebird of happiness fly over chizzlestick's head this vacation and deliver him a nice birdy doo on top of his squarehead.
 
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Uhhhhhh, in 1972, the year Johnny Rodgers won the Heisman, we had a starting linebacker named Matt Blair, 6' 3" and 220 pounds. Are you suggesting that he was big enough 35 years ago to start on the offensive line?

Go Cyclones :yes:

Well, if he played for the 1972 Huskers, then yeah. Check out the sizes of the linemen in the attached link and get back to me.

1972 roster -- HuskerPedia™
 
Chizzy wouldn't do this! He is a classy, honest and genuine person. I would trust him with my first born.

To even think that fellow 'Clones think that Cheese-D&^k is capable of this is abhorrent...The next think you guys are going to think is that our basketball program is in trouble. Jeez.
 
Uhhhhhh, in 1972, the year Johnny Rodgers won the Heisman, we had a starting linebacker named Matt Blair, 6' 3" and 220 pounds. Are you suggesting that he was big enough 35 years ago to start on the offensive line?

Yeah, pretty close. I think Blair was particularly large for a Rover/LB. (Didn't he player Rover at times?)

I was an eiu fan in high school (late '60s), and I used to doodle in class, computing OLine and team averages by weight, and so on. I recall Jon Meskimen, OG from CR Jefferson, was 237 pounds. As best I recall, he was average weight-wise for an O-Lineman (or maybe a little heavier than average).

Hey, Bob Commings (later eiu HC, ORF's immediate predecessor) was a starter at OG and LB on eiu's first-ever Rose Bowl team (January 1957). He was 5-9, 168 pounds. Ridiculous. . . . Best I recall, Commings teammates C Don Suchy and OG Frank Bloomquist were in the 205-210 pound range. Don't recall the tackles' weights.

My, my, my, just how the game has changed. . . .
 
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Honestly, Reeves was one of the recruits that I was most excited about. Sure, short corners can get beat on fades in the endzone (jump balls), but if the kid can cover and jump, it takes a pretty good throw to make him pay for being short. I'd rather have a short corner that can stick with a WR than a taller one that covers loose and doesn't have the hip swivel to stay with his man when he makes his cuts. The film I saw on Reeves shows that he can cover and he has a good vertical as well.

Reeves and Beshears both may be short, but they can play. They can also help with special teams. Does anyone think that ISU could use some help at PR? Besides, with all of the talent down south, doesn't it say something that AU may be going after Reeves? This "we don't want him because he's short" talk is stupid.
 
This has been discussed before, but it's not that big of a deal that Chizik is still recruiting some of the players he was at ISU. It happens all of the time, and I'm sure Rhoads will be recruiting some of the players he was recruiting down at Auburn. If he wasn't, I would be disappointed.
 
Honestly, Reeves was one of the recruits that I was most excited about. Sure, short corners can get beat on fades in the endzone (jump balls), but if the kid can cover and jump, it takes a pretty good throw to make him pay for being short. I'd rather have a short corner that can stick with a WR than a taller one that covers loose and doesn't have the hip swivel to stay with his man when he makes his cuts. The film I saw on Reeves shows that he can cover and he has a good vertical as well.

Reeves and Beshears both may be short, but they can play. They can also help with special teams. Does anyone think that ISU could use some help at PR? Besides, with all of the talent down south, doesn't it say something that AU may be going after Reeves? This "we don't want him because he's short" talk is stupid.

I agree with your post, but the highlighted part made me laugh... because if I remember right, there seem to be a few good QB's in the Big 12 that we have to compete against. :wink:
 
I like this guys attitude! He knows commitment and that is big in my book!

I'm on the same page with you. Dustin said he'd go through spring ball then see where he's at. No rush to judgment on his part. As a fan, I don't see how we can ask for more from one of our own.

I can't imagine that Dustin won't be a happy camper before spring ball begins. If not, he gave it a fair go here. Good enough in my book. (Can anyone here imagine he won't be pleased to be playing for Coach Ash?)
 
. . . it's not that big of a deal that Chizik is still recruiting some of the players he was at ISU. It happens all of the time, and I'm sure Rhoads will be recruiting some of the players he was recruiting down at Auburn. If he wasn't, I would be disappointed.

Let me cast a vote for your position on this issue, cstrunk.

I believe it was the press conference in February 2007 announcing GC's first recruiting class here. He was asked a question about how he recruits a kid. GC said that until a kid asks tells him he's made a final decision and requests no further contact, he'll go after the kid regardless of any verbal commitments.

GC, seems to me, is being consistent in his approach to recruiting. Hope PR has a like approach.

Unlike many here, I don't think of GC as the devil's spawn. I say good riddance, be off with you. I intend to blot out memory of your time in Ames.
 
Not a big deal either way. We don't need corners that ae 5'7" trying to cover 6'5" receivers. This was one of the I already gave up on ISU recruits.


How many guys did we play this year that were 6'5? Did we play any?

We had some tall DB's this year and it didn't matter. Height doesn't matter on quick slants, outs, posts, curls. All they matter on are fades and even then they can make up for it by being in good position.

We need talent, we need speed and we need football players. If this guy is all of those things I could care less how tall he is. JJ Moses was a 5'7 WR. Ellis Hobbs is really short and in the NFL. Seneca Wallace is probably not even 5'10 and he is currently starting in the NFL. Height is important but not the most important
 
No offense to Jeremy Reeves, but I dont see Gene Chizik recruiting him anymore unless he is the 50th backup option. That story on Jeremy Reeves is him sitting there wishing he gets a scholarship by Auburn. In my opinion, that will not happen unless the first 50 cornerback recruits go somewhere else. It even says that in the story "Gene told me that there MIGHT be a scholarship coming". Coaches say that all the time to keep you on a leash. Its called recruiting. By going to Auburn you are recruiting the 4 & 5 star calibur players. Im not one who judges talent off of stars but if he started signing a bunch of 2 star players, Gene Chizik would be crucified by the Auburn faithful. The only players that Gene is prolly going after is someone like Mike Marry or Dyron Dye. I dont think you have to worry about anyone, who is committed to us, following Gene Chizik to Auburn because Gene is probably not going after that same calibur of talent that we consistently recruit. That probably goes for the majority of the current players on our roster as well. Just my opinion, take it for what its worth.
 
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