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Chizik and his arrogance

I would buy what he is saying if the team at the end of last year didn't look worse than the team at the beginning of the year. Maybe we are better off than we think and all those freshman will be great in their soph year.
 
mwitt said:
Nope. He's using it this year. We burned Bates' redshirt for a 3-9 team and the only thing he really did was make that catch against Iowa.
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I should have checked before I posted. Thanks for the correction.
 
I think after he replaced Bolt with a real defensive coordinator that we would've been pretty good in years 3 and 4 under Chizik. The situation he inherited from Mac was pretty crappy. Chizik's first team wasn't too bad with some solid seniors but he had no chance last fall. McCarney's last two recruiting classes were a train wreck. I honestly don't see how his recruiting could fall off so hard but it did.
 
I would agree with the majority of his statement however the "We did it right from day one" makes it lose all credibility.

I'm sure it wasn't his plan to hire the OC and DC, realize they can't get it done, and demote them at the end of year 2.
 
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He did not leave the program in better shape, that is just a flat out lie! The only thing he *might* have done is brought in better overall talent, but with 1 1/2 recruiting classes, he really can't back that up either. We still have a lot of guys on the roster that are from Mac's last couple recruiting classes.

I wanted a change after 2006 just like the majority of ISU fans, but to have such a huge ego and amount of arrogance as Eugene does to say he left the program in better shape is just plain bullship!

I can't wait to watch him fall on his face and get run out of town as fast as he bailed on us. Stupid redneck *****!
 
ribsnwhiskey said:
He did not leave the program in better shape, that is just a flat out lie! The only thing he *might* have done is brought in better overall talent, but with 1 1/2 recruiting classes, he really can't back that up either. We still have a lot of guys on the roster that are from Mac's last couple recruiting classes.

I wanted a change after 2006 just like the majority of ISU fans, but to have such a huge ego and amount of arrogance as Eugene does to say he left the program in better shape is just plain bullship!

I can't wait to watch him fall on his face and get run out of town as fast as he bailed on us. Stupid redneck *****!
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The next time you post, don't hold anything back, ribsnwhiskey. Tell us how you really feel.:wink:
 
cyentist said:
"I have no question in my mind that we were definitely on the right track," Chizik said. "Last year, we played with a brand-new quarterback and 11 true freshmen. We were starting a bunch of them. That's hard to do in that league. There's no question we were going to win a lot of games in Years 3 and 4, which was our plan all along. We did it right from the time we walked in the door to the time we left. There's no doubt that place is better off now than from when we inherited it."
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If Chizik was truly building for the future, then he would have redshirt all 11 of those true freshmen. He contradicts himself right there. Plus, he left a lot more holes on our defensive line and at LB than he inherited. Remember that he inherited guys like Kurtis Taylor, Ahtyba Rubin, Ace Bowen, Michael Bibbs and Jon Banks. And almost all of our current projected starters on the Front 7 were recruited by McCarney (Parker, Frere, Alburtis, Garrin, Raven, Schmidgall). Other than Jerrod Black and Roosevelt Maggit, he left behind very few players in that area for Coach Rhoads to work with.
 
Cyrocks said:
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I don't get it. I don't see where Chizik is being arrogant. Quite the opposite. In some ways I agree with him -- 11 freshmen starters and a new quarterback and all.

I guess I could have done without the "left it better than I found it" comment, but isn't that why many of us wanted the football program to go in a different direction? The program under McCarney the last couple of years was spiriling downward.
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Of course most of those freshmen shouldn't have been playing in the first place. What was with the rotating door at RB? Playing guys early just to have them burn a year for kickoff coverage made a lot of sense too (three of those guys are gone now by the way). I say he is overconfident in his abilities and the job he did here and that could be construed as arrogant. He pretty much had a bell curve of success at ISU. Sucked beyond belief to start and end his career at ISU with a tiny peak of success (some of it due as much to mismanagement by CU as anything we did) in the middle.
 
chizik is promoting himself so he can promote auburn to donors and recruits.
 
I'm looking forward to seeing if it was our "lack of talent" that couldn't get a play in from the sideliens on time...


EDIT: I am hoping we have more talent in that "position" this year... :biggrin:
 
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bfross said:
Of course most of those freshmen shouldn't have been playing in the first place. What was with the rotating door at RB? Playing guys early just to have them burn a year for kickoff coverage made a lot of sense too (three of those guys are gone now by the way). I say he is overconfident in his abilities and the job he did here and that could be construed as arrogant. He pretty much had a bell curve of success at ISU. Sucked beyond belief to start and end his career at ISU with a tiny peak of success (some of it due as much to mismanagement by CU as anything we did) in the middle.
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You make great points. I agree with everything you stated.
 
Cyrocks said:
The next time you post, don't hold anything back, ribsnwhiskey. Tell us how you really feel.:wink:
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It's been a tough year to be a Cyclone! :sad:

Plus, and I know it would never get back to them, but I want some of these weasels who do the things they do to know how real people feel about them. I'd like nothing more than to look Geno straight in the eye and tell him what I think of him.
 
Flag Guy said:
I'm looking forward to seeing if it was our "lack of talent" that couldn't get a play in from the sideliens on time...


EDIT: I am hoping we have more talent in that "position" this year... :biggrin:
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the offense never went under 18 seconds pretty much for the entire spring game.....

it will be interesting come real games...
 
chizdik will get kicked in the stones down at auburn this year, what do you think his biggest loss will be? Personally, I think UT will be the ultimate punch to the crotch, when he loses to the vols
 
ribsnwhiskey said:
It's been a tough year to be a Cyclone! :sad:

Plus, and I know it would never get back to them, but I want some of these weasels who do the things they do to know how real people feel about them. I'd like nothing more than to look Geno straight in the eye and tell him what I think of him.
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:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

I'd pay good money to watch you do that.
 
StLouisClone said:
If Chizik was truly building for the future, then he would have redshirt all 11 of those true freshmen. He contradicts himself right there. Plus, he left a lot more holes on our defensive line and at LB than he inherited. Remember that he inherited guys like Kurtis Taylor, Ahtyba Rubin, Ace Bowen, Michael Bibbs and Jon Banks. And almost all of our current projected starters on the Front 7 were recruited by McCarney (Parker, Frere, Alburtis, Garrin, Raven, Schmidgall). Other than Jerrod Black and Roosevelt Maggit, he left behind very few players in that area for Coach Rhoads to work with.
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Well, if Chizik was truly building for THIS year, which I think he was, then he'd be better off playing those true FR instead of redshirting them.

Also, Bibbs was a Chizik player.
 
Not surprised by what he said at all. He might suck as a coach, might be a **** to the fans, but he is great at "coach talk" and that was what he was doing.

Who cares.
 
isunorth said:
No kidding. If we fall on our faces the next 2 years, then he'll brush it off and say he wasn't around to make it work. What a d*ck.

You won't have to "hope" he gets worked by Saban and Alabama. Saban may be one of the best coaches in the country and Chizik is absolutely no match.[/QUOTE]

This is where the "he HAD to take the big money" excuse comes in. I think eventually Gene would've turned things around here all the while preparing himself for that SEC/B12S job he really wanted.

By leaving so early Gene robbed himself of some valuable HEAD coaching experience that he obviously needs badly. Not only is he outmatched by Saban, I would say he's outmatched by almost every other SEC coach. I think the Iron Bowl is going to be a bloodbath this year and Auburn will be lucky to get to .500. If that persists into the 2010 season I think he's done after his second loss to Bama.

The bad news for us is that Auburn calls one Paul Rhoads after he's taken ISU to consecutive B12 championship games. :wink:
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weR138 said:
isunorth said:
No kidding. If we fall on our faces the next 2 years, then he'll brush it off and say he wasn't around to make it work. What a d*ck.

You won't have to "hope" he gets worked by Saban and Alabama. Saban may be one of the best coaches in the country and Chizik is absolutely no match.[/QUOTE]

This is where the "he HAD to take the big money" excuse comes in. I think eventually Gene would've turned things around here all the while preparing himself for that SEC/B12S job he really wanted.

By leaving so early Gene robbed himself of some valuable HEAD coaching experience that he obviously needs badly. Not only is he outmatched by Saban, I would say he's outmatched by almost every other SEC coach. I think the Iron Bowl is going to be a bloodbath this year and Auburn will be lucky to get to .500. If that persists into the 2010 season I think he's done after his second loss to Bama.

The bad news for us is that Auburn calls one Paul Rhoads after he's taken ISU to consecutive B12 championship games. :wink:
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And CPR kindly says "No frickin' way" because he's got all the integrity and trust that cheesedik claims to have but actually doesn't.
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