CFN Prediction
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You have only had one single season of more than 7 wins in the last 32 years and Iowa has had four 10+ win seasons in the last 8 years
So, yes, Iowa has been much better.
Since the OP'd article specifically refers to the recent years (ie, since the series became competitive), i'll defer to the scoreboard in which we've won 7\12.
No disputing they ended up with a better record. However, the only direct comparison is head to head, since they do not compete in the same conference.
WTF? Screw that... we're going to win. Please don't kiss the Hawk fan's *** on this message board and tell him he gave some great insight... go over to the Hawk board for that...
CFN Prediction: Iowa 27 … Iowa State 13 … Line: Iowa -13.5
Scout.com: 2010 Big Ten Predictions - Penn St vs. Bama
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Now that the game is over . . how are we possibly going to beat Kansas State at Kansas City?
On paper anyway??
Scout.com: 2010 Big Ten Predictions - Penn St vs. Bama
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Now that the game is over . . how are we possibly going to beat Kansas State at Kansas City?
On paper anyway??
You're right. Head to head is the only way to compare teams.
Last year's Ohio State team was clearly inferior to USC. After all, they they beat them in the 2nd game of the season. Who cares that they tanked the rest of the season.
Also, 12 is a very good, round historical number to use when talking about the series. Heck, don't use 15 (it'd be 7 of 15) or 20 (it'd be 7 of 20). 12 is the number to use.
Nice post. I agree with the bolded note above. If we take care of the ball we are going to be in this thing til the end. I like our chances since I do think we are a better team than Northwestern.
I think the Clones win 19-17.
I agree with this guy's prediction for the most part... except no way will Iowa rush for 200 yards. I looked up the last 5 games - Iowa never rushed for 200 yards in any of them and they average 147.4 RYPG. With three new starters on the O-line and ISU's propensity to stack the box no way that happens. Especially with 3 new starters.
If ISU stacks the box this year, it will be a long day for ISU. Iowa typically doesn't have gamebreakers at WR....this year they do in DJK/McNutt. If ISU stacks the box and puts their CB's on an island, ISU is going to give up more than one TD of 40+ yards....I'd take that one to the bank (especially if Benton is out). If ISU is putting their 3rd/4th CB on McNutt/Davis/Sandeman all day....it will be a big day for the Iowa WR's.
ISU will lose if they stack the box. ISU stacked the box last season, and Stanzi beat them passing. If Stanzi wouldn't have thrown those picks last season, it would have been even more of a blow out. The coaches seem to think Stanzi has cleared up the bulk of his INT issues that haunted him last year....we'll find out Saturday.
One thing I'm fairly sure of: if ISU stacks the box, the lose. ISU needs to slow down Iowa's rush game with only 7, and occasionally 8, in the box to give them a chance on Saturday.
I don't think 200 is out of the question. Last year Iowa ran for 191 yards with 2 new OL starters (Reiff and Gettis). And it sounds like Gettis is good to go on Saturday so this year they have 2 new guys again in Zus and Ferentz plus ISU lost all 3 LB's from last year and didn't they lose 2 from last year's DL? Plus ISU also stacked the box as well last year.
Umm, can we acknowledge that the stats from last year's game are at least a little skewed because of the turnovers? And for the record I honestly think ISU's defensive front 7 is at least as good as last year's.
The only time ISU has ever had success in this game is when they have stacked the box, gotten pressure, and forced turnovers. If they don't do that I give them absolutely zero chance. ISU isn't going to win this game by matching up with Iowa. Not trying to make things happen that are out of the ordinary is an absolute death knell for ISU in this game.
The only time ISU has ever had success in this game is when they have stacked the box, gotten pressure, and forced turnovers. If they don't do that I give them absolutely zero chance. ISU isn't going to win this game by matching up with Iowa. Not trying to make things happen that are out of the ordinary is an absolute death knell for ISU in this game.
Last I knew, a turnover in Iowa High School ended a PAT attempt and it was the same in the NFL. However, in college football the defending team can score the 2 if they gain possession and return it. I recall one game where ISU thought they had scored the defensive PAT but a reserve QB was so excited that he ran out onto the field as the ball was being returned and drew a flag.:no: If I recall correctly it was pivotal in the game as the 3 point swing (not to mention the momentum swing!) ended ISU's comeback chance.
Anyone else remember that?
I didn't find that game but here is the box score from a 1998 game where Tejas did it to ISU...
Iowa State vs TEXAS (Oct 03, 1998)
look-a-like?
1998 - ISU 3-9; Iowa - 3-8 (Push)
1999 - ISU 4-7; Iowa - 1-10 (ISU)
2000 - ISU 9-3; Iowa - 3-9 (ISU)
2001 - ISU 7-5; Iowa - 7-5 (Push)
2002 - ISU 7-7; Iowa - 11-2 (Iowa)
2003 - ISU 2-10; Iowa - 10-3 (Iowa)
2004 - ISU 7-5; Iowa 10-2 (Iowa)
2005 - ISU 7-5; Iowa 7-5 (Push)
2006 - ISU 4-8; Iowa 6-7 (Push)
2007 - ISU 3-9; Iowa 6-6 (Iowa)
2008 - ISU 2-10; Iowa 9-4 (Iowa)
2009 - ISU 7-6; Iowa 11-2 (Iowa)
kind of have to be creative.
Or stoned? :jiggy:
Maybe a little skewed, but Iowa had 2 turnovers themselves and on 3 of the 5 INT's ISU threw ISU had a 3rd and 9, 3rd and 10 and 3rd and 3, so if those fall incomplete instead they punt giving Iowa the ball to run more without time running off the clock anyway. So Iowa had 3 extra possesions on the other 3 turnovers which would skew it a little but not a lot because like I said Iowa also had 2 INT's ending drives.
furthermore, jfyi, if you intercept it or recover a fumble and on the return subsequently fumble it yourself, it is THEN a dead ball if the original offense recovers it. you cannot change possessions twice on the same play in OT.