Naw, you're still the conspiracy theorist. There could still have been things that Bubu admitted to in court that wen't breaking the law but still broke student code of conduct.
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You're still talking about "could have beens", while some of us are sticking to the known facts, as did the county attorney and two judges that very likely knew more about the case than Leath and JP. At least they had talked to the parties face to face. And who have been the adults thru this, JP and Leath who ran off their mouths to the press, or BuBu and Fred, who kept their mouths shut and handled it with class? But keep imagining "could have beens" if you want to, I just can't figure out why you would want to.
You don't know all of the details so I don't understand why you pretend to know for sure. It's really silly.
No I don't and neither do you. We can only go by what the evidence, lack of evidence, tampering of evidence, etc determined, and that was that the charges against BuBu were dropped. The appeals law judge also talked to the parties and looked at all the evidence and determined that the girl's story was uncredible. The district judge criticized ISU's handling of the case and re-instated BuBu to the team, which was upheld by the Iowa Supreme Court. BuBu is not a kid that's been in trouble during high school or college, in fact just the opposite, he's always been an honor student. But some still want to play the "could have been" game to judge him. Just don't get it.
No, since we don't know all of the details we can't assume anything. I'm not saying its not possible that Leath and Pollard handled it wrong but I'm also not ruling out that Bubu didn't do any wrong.
We all know that he did SOMETHING wrong. It's just whether it was proven in court. Obviously it wasn't, but student conduct code is different than law. I'll just be happy when it's over. The whole situation screwed up our season somewhat, as we could have used that scholarship. Amardi would have helped, even if just a little. I'll be happy when all of the ISU/Ames-Creighton relationships are gone and GMac goes back to being the bad coach that we all know he can be.
It seems impossible to just discuss a possible Palo transfer. I am beginning to think he should transfer further than just Creighton.
Right. I don't understand why it is so hard for some of us to see how Leath/Pollard could have looked at the evidence and simply concluded that the student code was violated. Regardless of whether they might the right decision or whether we like their decision, I don't think they were out to get Bubu. I think they just used a simple approach of "did he violate the code" or not. Most students have violated the code, but not found themselves in a situation where it was an official matter.
The investigation of the incident by the county attorney and judges indicates that the "SOMETHING" wrong was likely something that hundreds of couples do every week-end on the ISU campus. May be immoral to some, but not illegal. And of course the obvious question is why was BuBu banned twice for what Leath ruled a violation of the student code while other athletes have been reinstated when they also obviously violated the student code, some before their charges were even dropped and some convicted of a felony?
First two: At ISU, yes, he's done and had a senior day.
Last one: Technically yes, he has exhausted his eligibility, but the scuttlebutt is that he might pursue a waiver for one more year to transfer as a graduate to another program.
Yep. His case to the NCAA will be "I missed half a season due to suspension from charges that were dropped, then the school suspended me after transfer deadline and then the courts deemed I should be in the team but due to that awkwardness I was never played once joining the team again." Definitely a long shot.
IMO however you feel about Bubu's situation, I think he has a pretty good argument to get an additional year of eligibility. Unless I'm mistaken, the court decision basically said Bubu shouldn't have been kicked off the team and should have been eligible to play, correct?
It's certainly a stronger argument than Josh ?? (large center that transferred from UCLA to Georgetown) to not lose eligibility despite playing in ~6 games in a season he wasn't injured, or that guy who transferred from Houston or whatever when his dad left the program and didn't have to sit out a year.
Ummm, yes. Revisionist history is assuming BuBu is guilty of something when the charges were dropped.
My question then would be...
If he violated the student conduct code, why did he keep his good academic standing and retain his scholarship. Why was he allowed to remain in school at all? If it was bad enough to boot him from the team, why wasn't it bad enough to boot him from school?
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Agree with all 3 points, but point 1A would be that if Leath had acted in May 2013 to veto Bubu's scholarship renewal for 2013-14, it would have been the best result for all concerned. In that timeframe, Bubu could have effectively been "cut" with no questions asked. He would have had plenty of time to transfer and play immediately at another school. For the rookie Prez, that oversight has to have been the real head-slapper.
My own conspiracy theory (copyright awd4cy
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If he gets to play again, then how about TCU? They are being shown up by SMU locally (their Iowa), and could use some help down there.
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