Bruns - Iowa Everywhere

I would argue that last year was a bigger let down. That team was loaded.
It is sort of like pointing out the 2-22 record basketball season. People consider that rewriting history to support a negative narrative even though it was objectively the worst season in program history (sorry Ken Trickey).
 
That’s just not how it works unless you’re an Alabama, USC, ND etc and your entire starting team is NFL players.
I don't understand your point. I'm not saying we reload like them, I'm saying we had the players to win. It's been clear to me for a while when Matt kept slamming his face into the same loses and mistakes for the last 3 or 4 years.
 
I don't understand your point. I'm not saying we reload like them, I'm saying we had the players to win. It's been clear to me for a while when Matt kept slamming his face into the same loses and mistakes for the last 3 or 4 years.
The justifications for season performances evolved as follows:

2019: We were just outperformed physically, the team wore out down the stretch, just need better athletes and more time to work on those special teams' margins (never mind the Iowa game was blown due to special teams and the bowl game started with the same type of mistake, but it was Norte Dame and they outgunned us so badly it didn't matter).
2020: The greatest season in Iowa State history, we won the Fiesta Bowl and could claim the Big 12 title even if we lost the actual title game and started the season being beaten by the Rajin Cajuns at home almost as badly as by Norte Dame. If our limited crowd could have been present the game would have been won! We achieved success in the Iowa game by not playing it.
2021: Every preseason predication has Iowa State as the Big 12 champions and finishing in the top 10. We were just tuning up against UNI with a rousing 16-10 victory. The loss to Iowa is just because they are better in the margins than we are. The team lost motivation after the Baylor loss supposedly which knocked them out of the CFP hunt but a Big 12 title was still possible until baffling losses to West Virginia and Texas Tech. Look this is Iowa State you should just be happy going 7-6, that is successful for any season. It doesn't matter that you had the same players from the team that won the Fiesta Bowl and is the greatest team in school history with the same coaching staff. It doesn't matter that we actually defeated Oklahoma State, the only Big 12 team to do so, and they ended up winning the Conference Championship. Every team was loaded with NFL talent because of the COVID year. We really met our internal expectations so just don't say anything more about it.
2022: These are a lot of close losses. We may be 4-7 but we were in every single game. We have a top defense nationally. We are so close!! At least these are not blow out losses! Don't you think it is better to be 4-8 with all close losses than 9-3 with the three losses being blow out losses????

Ok I will stop there :)
 
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I agree with your general premise, but this is two “bad” seasons in a row now. The first of which was with probably our most talented team ever. And both because of the same strategy/execution shortcomings. That’s what is frustrating/scary for the fan base.
Offense had issues at times last year aside from Breece busting a big run BUT don't forget the defense lost the WVU and Tech games. Can't even try to blame those on the offense last year. The defense in those two games was so shockingly bad I thought we were playing only reserves on that side.
 
Don’t want to rehash the Dan ending, Bruns mentioned he thought Dan would have fixed things. That’s his guy though so.
He enjoyed marginal success at North Texas before they moved on from him too. I think he could've got Iowa State back to 6-6, maybe 7-5, as a peak. I think we would have been guaranteed a cycle of 3-9, 5-7,6-6, 7-5 every 4 years.
 
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Don’t want to rehash the Dan ending, Bruns mentioned he thought Dan would have fixed things. That’s his guy though so.
That was an interesting comment there by Ben. I still remember listening to the last game before DMac was fired and Ben admitting at the end or after that game that it was over for DMac. Maybe he knew something was up the next day or not. IMO. the move to fire him had to be made at that time.
 
I don't understand your point. I'm not saying we reload like them, I'm saying we had the players to win. It's been clear to me for a while when Matt kept slamming his face into the same loses and mistakes for the last 3 or 4 years.

We had the players and coaches to win 7. That’s what happened. This isn’t like some hypothetical situation lol. Living in this vacuum without giving any credence to the teams we played or who was hurt or any number of variables is lame.

You know what’s weird? I haven’t seen the name Jirehl Brock all week. That’s a variable that absolutely no one is taking in to account this week or every week since Iowa. You want to talk about players? It’s often more important to talk about who’s NOT playing, than who IS playing.

Saying “we had the talent to win X amount of games is ******* lazy and absolutely not how sports works and the only way to prove it is by how many games any given team won.
 
We had the players and coaches to win 7. That’s what happened. This isn’t like some hypothetical situation lol. Living in this vacuum without giving any credence to the teams we played or who was hurt or any number of variables is lame.

You know what’s weird? I haven’t seen the name Jirehl Brock all week. That’s a variable that absolutely no one is taking in to account this week or every week since Iowa. You want to talk about players? It’s often more important to talk about who’s NOT playing, than who IS playing.

Saying “we had the talent to win X amount of games is ******* lazy and absolutely not how sports works and the only way to prove it is by how many games any given team won.
Next man in. Recruiting and development failures. Miyan is here it's another story of course but you don't get mulligans. That's a miss.

I love Campbell but he better make changes if he doesn't gonna get ugly.

I do not agree that was a 7 win talent team. Should have won the conference. Matt's in game decisions have been atrocious. 5-18 or whatever the stat is against even competition is clear proof of that.
 
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We can rehash this season and last for the next month and it's not going to change our record.
What I want to know is what is Campbell doing to make sure that the next year is not a repeat of the past two?

Any good leader knows the strengths and weaknesses of their team or company, the best leaders then go about fixing the weak parts while continuing to improve the strengths.

This morning on the Big 12 channel they were doing their weekly one-minute take of each game, one of them stated "that special teams again let ISU down, and it's not a new problem, but has been going for the past couple of years"

So are we going to see some changes in this critical part of the game, or continue to do status quo and nothing changes? I could say the same about the offense, its not working this year, and would not have worked last year without Hall in the backfield.

Changes need to be made, if not, next year will be our last as season ticket holders.
 
Next man in. Recruiting and development failures. Miyan is here it's another story of course but you don't get mulligans. That's a miss.

I love Campbell but he better make changes if he doesn't gonna get ugly.

I do not agree that was a 7 win talent team. Should have won the conference. Matt's in game decisions have been atrocious. 5-18 or whatever the stat is against even competition is clear proof of that.
Next man in? At Iowa State? When the hell has that EVER been the case? I will say our OL development is shockingly poor but to just expect Iowa State to have loaded two deeps is ludicrous.
 
We can rehash this season and last for the next month and it's not going to change our record.
What I want to know is what is Campbell doing to make sure that the next year is not a repeat of the past two?

Any good leader knows the strengths and weaknesses of their team or company, the best leaders then go about fixing the weak parts while continuing to improve the strengths.

This morning on the Big 12 channel they were doing their weekly one-minute take of each game, one of them stated "that special teams again let ISU down, and it's not a new problem, but has been going for the past couple of years"

So are we going to see some changes in this critical part of the game, or continue to do status quo and nothing changes? I could say the same about the offense, its not working this year, and would not have worked last year without Hall in the backfield.

Changes need to be made, if not, next year will be our last as season ticket holders.
As stated Matt knows more football than people on this board.
OTOH I think he could use some advise on management skills. They have been the downfall of a lot of coaches. It seems few have really had good teachers in that regard. School of hard knocks comes with multi million dollar payoffs so they never need to apply what they learn.
 

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