Brackins now a second round pick?

[GoShow97]

Great Post.

And Xbox...We out rebounded the majority of our opponents this season, Including Conference games. Again, one of the few things that we didn't have problems with.

Really? :biglaugh:

ISU got hammered on the boards more often then not.

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[mowheat]

To go along with having a heckuva lot more talent around him then Brackins did.....

 

[oldman]

Yeah, no we didn't. In non-conference we outrebounded our opponent 8 of 15 games and in B12(including the 1 B12 tourney game) we outrebounded our opponent in 8 of 17 games. Overall 16 of 32 games.

Not intending to be argumentative, but I couldn't help verifying some of your stats, as they just didn't seem right. I didn't look at the non-conf schedule, but here is how the Big XII broke down as far as our rebounding is concerned.

TU 40 ISU 36
NU 33 ISU 41
TT 38 ISU 39
KU 42 ISU 31
OU 25 ISU 30
CU 24 ISU 49
BA 36 ISU 26
KSt37 ISU 38
MU 42 ISU 40
KU 47 ISU 36
OSU29 ISU 34
Tam39 ISU 37
NU 27 ISU 35
MU 36 ISU 38
CU 21 ISU 35
KSt37 ISU 39
TU 44 ISU 28

I know, a lot of space for a little info, but it looks to me like we outrebounded conf opponents in 10 out of 17 games. KU, Baylor and the last game w/ Texas we got our clocks cleaned, but as for the rest, we were pretty competitive. Just my two pennies.

 

[IcSyU]

I still contend total rebounds don't tell the whole story. Shots taken by each team need to be taken into account. If one team takes 60 shots, and the other team takes 48, the team that takes 48 should win on the boards because they had 12 more shots to rebound defensively, which is where the majority of boards come from.

 

[oldman]

I can't argue about that. I just didn't agree that we were "hammered on the boards more often than not."

 

[VeloClone]

I still contend total rebounds don't tell the whole story. Shots taken by each team need to be taken into account. If one team takes 60 shots, and the other team takes 48, the team that takes 48 should win on the boards because they had 12 more shots to rebound defensively, which is where the majority of boards come from.

Shots missed not taken by each team need to be taken into account. In your scenario who has the rebounding advantage if the team that took 60 shots shot 50% and the team that took 48 shots shot 33%? The 60 shots yielded 30 rebounding opportunities and the 48 shots yielded 32 rebounding opportunities. You also have to take both team's missed free throws into the equation.

Right idea, I just think you have to take it further for it to mean anything.

 

[CTTB78]

Did Brackins not even make HM All-America?

 

[clonedude]

To answer this question fairly, you need to ask yourself if you were an NBA general manager, and you only get two picks every year.... would you take CB with one of your two picks this year?

I wouldn't. But that's just my opinion.

 

[Cyforce]

To go along with having a heckuva lot more talent around him then Brackins did.....

Fizer had talent around him one year.
He was a dominant player all three years he was here.
Then again he worked at both ends of the floor.

Hopefully every player we retain and every recruit that enters
the program from now on understands winning at ISU starts
and ends at the defensive end of the floor.

 

[DrewCo]

It's sad that he fell out of the first round...still love the guy.

 

[ajk4st8]

The more I read on some of these post the more I feel I am back in 7th grade talking to a bunch of kids who think they can play basketball, until you coach or play D-1 basketball, please tell me reilly - WHAT would you do? This is not high school ball, I don't care how bad you are!

ummmmmmm.... huh?

 

[jakecovo21]

no shock here