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Bracketology: Relevant Data to Selection Committee

mj4cy said:
I personally don't want a #2 seed. If we get one, we'll likely be the last #2 seed. Thus, we'll be paired in Kentucky's bracket as the overall #1. A 3 seed is a better chance of steering clear of Kentucky.


Ideally, I want to be a #3 in Utah's, Villanova's, or Gonzaga's bracket.
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I was under the impression that is not how it works.
 
Jeremy said:
People keep saying we've got a legit shot at a 2-see and it's going to be much harder to get than most expect. Right or wrong there is a lot of distance between the 2 seeds and the 3 seeds this year. While it's technically possible we get a 2-seed, we'd pretty much need to win out, win the conference tourney, and have a couple teams lose 2+ games.
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According to rpiforecast, if we win out our RPI will be 5. You win the Big 12, Big 12 tourney, and have a RPI of 5, and you are a lock at a 2 seed.
 
NorthCyd said:
It says in the rules under resources various computer rankings are provided. Perhaps when they are all discussing it at the table they limit it to RPI, but there is nothing stopping a committee member from considering whatever data they want when it comes to submitting their ballots.
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Thanks for clarification. I think with my quick-read of it, I interpreted that those factors weren't part of the process, when he was simply saying the "data sheet" doesn't include it.
 
mj4cy said:
I personally don't want a #2 seed. If we get one, we'll likely be the last #2 seed. Thus, we'll be paired in Kentucky's bracket as the overall #1. A 3 seed is a better chance of steering clear of Kentucky.


Ideally, I want to be a #3 in Utah's, Villanova's, or Gonzaga's bracket.
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I don't think that is necessarily how it works. They also take into consideration location. It's too early to predict, but depending on who would move from a 2 to a 3 or 1 to 2 and where teams fit geographically that "make sense."

I'll just take the highest seed possible. Doesn't mean we'll be in UK's region.

Pittsburgh, Louisville, Omaha and Portland are the 2 seed locations.

Now as a cyclone fan, our luck will send us there.

Too many things that would need to fall into place for a 2 seed. I would think they have the 3 seed on lock right now, barring a collapse (knock on wood).
 
No sites are tied to any seed. Its been this way for years, I'm not sure how that misconception is still out there.

2 seeds will be placed in their closest available geographic site.
 
I still find it ridiculous that we could outright win the toughest conference in the nation and not get a 2 seed.
 
Didn't think about KU as the #2. I wonder if they would take that into consideration with regards to Omaha. Would they put us both in that same bracket after we will have (hopefully) played 3 games this season?
 
ISU has to get to the elite 8 first before people get scared of possibly playing Kentucky....
 
Cy$ said:
ISU has to get to the elite 8 first before people get scared of possibly playing Kentucky....
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We are fans on a message board. This is part of the process. I don't know how many times that has to be stated.
 
UraMallas said:
We are fans on a message board. This is part of the process. I don't know how many times that has to be stated.
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the point is Iowa State hasn't been to an elite 8 in around 15 years. It's stupid to worry about it. If Iowa State gets to an elite 8 it will be a good year. Kentucky is far from unstoppable this year like ESPN would make you believe.
 
Cy$ said:
the point is Iowa State hasn't been to an elite 8 in around 15 years. It's stupid to worry about it. If Iowa State gets to an elite 8 it will be a good year. Kentucky is far from unstoppable this year like ESPN would make you believe.
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I think we can take them with our best shot but I definitely want to avoid that bracket. Elite 8 is a great place to be but the goal is Final Four, according to Hoiberg. I don't want Kentucky in our bracket; if at all possible, give me Gonzaga.
 
AdamJGray said:
According to rpiforecast, if we win out our RPI will be 5. You win the Big 12, Big 12 tourney, and have a RPI of 5, and you are a lock at a 2 seed.
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An RPI of 5 is in the mix for a 1 seed, especially if some of the teams in front of us drop a game or two (particularly Gonzaga)
 
JWIL4CY said:
I'm fairly certain that Wisconsin and Kansas will end up in Omaha unless we manage to finish ahead of Kansas.
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Wouldn't Wisconsin and Kansas both be 2 seeds? Hopefully they send us West, if that is the case.
 
Cyclonetrombone said:
Not sure why a conference with as many 100+ and 200+ RPI schools as the Missouri Valley has could justify two teams selected to the tournament outside of the #1 team getting upset by a team that wouldnt have made it otherwise. That is a one bid conference all day long, unless the bubble is really weak.
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Perhaps it is because Power 5 schools refuse to play them and they are doing to best they can with what they have?
 
JWIL4CY said:
I'm fairly certain that Wisconsin and Kansas will end up in Omaha unless we manage to finish ahead of Kansas.
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We've got work to do if we're going to replace Kansas......

Current RPI:
2 Kansas
6 Wisconsin
9 Cyclones
14 Baylor
15 Oklahoma
16 WSU
20 UNI
22 WV
 
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