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They are reaping the rewards. Everything I listed (tuition, TV exposure, travel, etc....everything, that is, except a paycheck...which is only logical because they are not working...they are playing a game. They are not professionals. This is not their career. It if becomes their career, then the paychecks will follow at the professional level.
Again...if they don't like the arrangement, then don't play or better yet, go straight to the pros.
Oh...you need college exposure to get that chance?
Chalk up yet another benefit they are receiving.
Oh...you need college exposure to get that chance?
Chalk up yet another benefit they are receiving.
For the most part these athletes will have doors opened for them after college a normal graduate would not get. The name recognition puts them ahead of Johnny college graduate. Why don't you see who a lot of reps are for drug companies/medical companies. You will see an awful lot of former atheletes. These are very well paying positions too.
So they get out of school with no debt, get their housing paid for, books paid for, lots of free food, clothing, many trips and name recognition for their future jobs. I'd say they are doing alright.
What would one year of ISU be considered? I do not even know out of state tuition right now. Hold on, Rhoads mentioned something about $100k for a football player from Florida. I do not think that includes all the other perks but I could be wrong. Not a bad gig. For sure >$100k for their time at the university.
So they get out of school with no debt, get their housing paid for, books paid for, lots of free food, clothing, many trips and name recognition for their future jobs. I'd say they are doing alright.
What would one year of ISU be considered? I do not even know out of state tuition right now. Hold on, Rhoads mentioned something about $100k for a football player from Florida. I do not think that includes all the other perks but I could be wrong. Not a bad gig. For sure >$100k for their time at the university.
Just wanted to jump in and say that Bowlsby is garbage. We were sold a bill of goods by everyone when he was hired and he's delivered nothing.
Yes, salaries are out of control, but the solution isn't to pay players. The solution is to change our priorities so we aren't all funneling massive amounts of money to college sports when there are many more higher level priorities we probably should be spending our money on.
Don’t blame the AD’s or the coaches for their high salaries. Blame yourself and me and everyone else that continues to throw money at the system.
This is pure supply and demand and until we all step back and take a pause at all the insane amount of money we are spending on college athletics, nothing will change.
We all love spectator sports (or we wouldn’t be on here), but let’s not pretend we aren’t part of the problem. Nothing will change as long as the TV sets stay on and the seats get filled in the stadiums.
Bowlsby was suppose to be the poster boy for NCAA reform and autonomy and everything else. It appears that is all for his own benefit.
I will say that Bowlsby has some ******* ADs and Presidents to deal with (I'm looking at you Texas and Oklahoma)...
I will say that Bowlsby has some ******* ADs and Presidents to deal with (I'm looking at you Texas and Oklahoma)...
He seems to be getting a great paycheck. Not sure he will forward the conference into a progressive curve for the future.
Take Delaney of the Big 10. A great businessman and cutthroat.
You must be young. Hang onto that idealistic side as long as you can brother!
I'm fine with them getting more benefits, but figure out a way to maintain competitive balance to some extent. It can be done. However, if we are going to justify it (rightly so) by the money the players bring to the university a few things should be kept in mind. 1. Athletes for non-revenue sports should not receive scholarships and should actually pay additional tuition to cover the operating expense for that sport. The same goes for revenue sport athletes that do not play. They are costing the university money. 3. The money should come from coaches' salaries. It is ridiculous that athletes get little while a coach can fail miserably, get canned in 3 years and retire comfortably. People keep talking about people making money off athletes as if there are some NCAA overlords with monocles and top hats and 8 figure salaries. Far and away the coaches are the ones making the money from the big tv contracts.
There's plenty of things they could do. Their inaction is aiding it plenty.
-affecting scholarship limits/academic standing of the program based on players leaving early
-maybe make it so scholarships are "locked up" for two-years minimum
-affecting future postseason eligibility
-way closer scrutiny on the academic standing of those 1'n'doners in their second semester
-probably plenty of other things that I haven't thought about
Instead, they stand by. It's a complete mockery of their Platonic ideal of a student-athlete, sure, but they love having those Rivals stars in their programs for a year, love basking in the reflected glow of the NBA and the draft, and love ESPN covering *their* future de facto properties before they come to the NBA with up-'n'-coming stories, draft intrigue, projections, and as a AAA for the association. CFB is the same way for the NFL.
They'd never get the same coverage on some star senior who is probably going to be playing in Europe or coaching next year (i.e. Georges Niang) than they will somebody who is 3-4 years younger, not as good/polished of a player, but likely playing against Lebron next year, which means less $$$, so they'd never do it.
Bahahaha, good luck getting that one to fly with the Title IX/extreme feminism crowd.
Here's the deal. Out of state tuition for a year is 30k. Not to many 18 year old kids make 30k and none do so while attending college full time. So now you want to pay them more because their coach makes 5 million dollars.
My boss makes 1 million dollars plus a 500k bonus each year. I don't get a pay increase when he does, nor does my salary have anything to do with his yet my work directly effects his success.
Now you want to give them more money because the school its self makes a ton of money.
My company made 19billion dollars last year. I did not get a raise.
If youre unhappy with your 30k a year, go "work" somewhere else, plenty of places hiring.
My boss makes 1 million dollars plus a 500k bonus each year. I don't get a pay increase when he does, nor does my salary have anything to do with his yet my work directly effects his success.
Now you want to give them more money because the school its self makes a ton of money.
My company made 19billion dollars last year. I did not get a raise.
If youre unhappy with your 30k a year, go "work" somewhere else, plenty of places hiring.
Also, if we start paying players, you can pretty much say good bye to ISU athletics. So careful what youre "fighting" for. Privileged little **** heads.
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what do you mean by "maybe make it so scholarships are "locked up" for two-years minimum"? If I'm misinterpreting, then please correct me. But, there's no way the NCAA or a school can enforce making scholarships a two year commitment. As capitalcityguy has insisted, this is a voluntary arrangement. If a player accepts a scholarship "locked in at 2 years" and decides they want to go pro after 1, what can the school or NCAA do about it?
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ok, that makes sense. So, it's an effort to discourage players from signing one and done players. I still don't see how that ever gets implemented, or even agreed to.
So you want to penalize schools for preparing students for their professional endeavors? There's on average nine one and done players a year, not sure it makes sense for the NCAA to try to create rules based on the actions of less than one tenth of one percent of all D-1 basketball players. And then why shouldn't the rule apply to all athletes who leave early not just one and done players? Call me crazy but I'm starting to think DeAndre Kane didn't really come to ISU for our higher education program.
If the good athletes decline the free education, the NCAA has no value, and there won't be a scholly for some scrub to have instead of the fast kid.
It isn't class envy to want fair value for your contribution.