Bowlsby Stepping Down Later This Year

[CYTUTT]

The next commissioner has got to be a savvy business person and have or hire, excellent broadcast negotiations and knowledge. I think they need to be young because social media and streaming is the way business is done. I’m older, but I sure don’t want to see an old school guy running the confrence. Youth and energy, mostly energy is what we need. Just like Campbell is doing for us currently.

 

[Acylum]

Who does the hiring exactly? ADs, university presidents? Do they just go by simple majority?

 

[SCNCY]

Who does the hiring exactly? ADs, university presidents? Do they just go by simple majority?

I assume it would be similar to how a public company would hire a CEO in that the board of directors would make the decision. In the Big 12 case, I would bet there would be a committee of a couple AD's that would screen/interview candidates before presenting them to all AD's. AD's vote before moving on to university presidents to vote. I have no insight, but I would assume this is how it would work.

 

[drlove]

Colorado would probably make more money in the new Big 12 than the current Pac 12 and they'd at least have more drivable road games. KU, KSU, BYU, OK State, Tech, TCU and ISU are closer to Boulder than Arizona State, which is the second closest Pac 12 school to CU.

Colorado isn't the "drive to a game" group, even when they were great in the 90's. They would prefer to hop on a plane for a 2+ hour flight west than drive to any Big 12 school.

 

[drlove]

While I agree with your overall premise, the actual “fit” hasn’t been all that great.

Curious why you say that? It is popular to only refer to CUs struggles in football, but they would have in the Big 12 with the hires they made for a coach.
The Pac 12 leadership and revenue has been a problem, no question, but that isn't a CU "fit".

I attend 15-20 games in Boulder a year, and I can say that no one wishes they were playing in Big 12 besides me.

 

[CascadeClone]

That's very optimistic, and still doesn't solve the stability issues of the Pac12 or reconcile the fact the Big 12 has leverage from the top brands making more coming to the Big 12. Which is easier if the football content is unloaded from Pac12N.

The Pac 12 has a problem that it can't solve itself, and it is on the clock first. It would be ridiculous for the R8 to not exploit that and instead jump to become orphans without an appreciable change in the revenue hierarchy.

We should be talking about whether USC or CU or one of the Arizona schools are going to make it so that the Pac12 doesn't even sign a deal. If they do, I am guessing 5-6 years in which they'll be losing schools by Year 4.

Let's revisit that gap. It likely won't be a gap- it was based on the Pac12 maintaining its schools for the next 11 years, networks being willing to go long on a conference in which a decade of metrics suggest is dying, and shortchanging the Big 12 CFP compared to the other 2 little P5s.

If I was the new Big12 commish, I would be trying to work some kind of partnership/alliance/merger with the Pac12 and Big12. You have 24 schools post OuT; could do all kinds of interesting things relative to FB divisions/pods.

If you want to go "hard core" then you can jettison geographic outliers like WV, UCF (geography) or any of the California schools (Cal? Stanford?) that would turn up their noses at KSU or Tech academics. Maybe get down to 20 if you are so inclined.

Either way you have a huge footprint, lots of big state schools, frankly just too big to ignore. If the SEC or B1G eat the ACC at some point (very possible), then you are the 3rd of the P3; so it's a defensive move for both conferences in becoming "too big to fail". However, you are playing some offense here too, in that I think there is incremental value in having 12 games from 11am to 9pm. You could easily do a conference network with that level of content (partnering with Amazon?) while still selling your best games to the networks for big cash. Will it be B1G money? No, the population and interest just isn't equal. But you would close the gap; maybe 25% instead of 50% or more.

Anyway, that's my pitch for the job.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

I assume it would be similar to how a public company would hire a CEO in that the board of directors would make the decision. In the Big 12 case, I would bet there would be a committee of a couple AD's that would screen/interview candidates before presenting them to all AD's. AD's vote before moving on to university presidents to vote. I have no insight, but I would assume this is how it would work.

That's how it worked when The Valley made a hire last year other than the ADs having an official vote. They had input but it was three presidents that did the interviews and then the full group of presidents (ceremonially) voted.

 

[NWICY]

And from the other side of things you'll see OU fans complaining about bowlsby as if it was his fault they were getting more 11am games, when that was all a Fox decision, and something OU implicitly signed off on when they signed on to the tv option with the most possible money. Conferences could put all kinds of demands\standards for their coverage into these deals, but the networks would pay less, so they take the "pay us more and do what you want" option.

Something those schools should consider when chasing the next larger paycheck into the SEC .

I always thought OU whining about 11 am games was the funniest thing ever. There is nothing wrong with 11 am kick offs maybe a little short on tailgate time but done before the hottest part of the day. Still time to watch other games afterwards.

 

[WhoISthis]

I always thought OU whining about 11 am games was the funniest thing ever. There is nothing wrong with 11 am kick offs maybe a little short on tailgate time but done before the hottest part of the day. Still time to watch other games afterwards.

In the last 10 years, they’ve developed this coping mechanism of becoming the victim. Nearly everything was eventually because of the Big 12.

The Big 12 had a blueblood problem. One wasn’t performing and both wanted to be known as bluebloods but not carry a conference.

 

[Acylum]

Curious why you say that? It is popular to only refer to CUs struggles in football, but they would have in the Big 12 with the hires they made for a coach.
The Pac 12 leadership and revenue has been a problem, no question, but that isn't a CU "fit".

I attend 15-20 games in Boulder a year, and I can say that no one wishes they were playing in Big 12 besides me.

Geez I remember seeing articles with a lot of people saying they wish they’d stayed. I’ll leave it at that. Don’t want this to get sent to the cave.

 

[SCNCY]

I always thought OU whining about 11 am games was the funniest thing ever. There is nothing wrong with 11 am kick offs maybe a little short on tailgate time but done before the hottest part of the day. Still time to watch other games afterwards.

Yeah, me too. But I think it follows the logic that the better games on major channels tend to be later in the day. Which I believe has generally held true. The problem is that ABC owned the night time slot for their best game, CBS owned the midday game for the best SEC sport, thus Fox used the earliest slot for their best game. Oklahoma didn't like that because other schools were playing during the perceived better slots than they were.

 

[drlove]

Geez I remember seeing articles with a lot of people saying they wish they’d stayed. I’ll leave it at that. Don’t want this to get sent to the cave.

fair enough. I suspect that sentiment had to do with Nebraska.

 

[cytor]

Yeah, me too. But I think it follows the logic that the better games on major channels tend to be later in the day. Which I believe has generally held true. The problem is that ABC owned the night time slot for their best game, CBS owned the midday game for the best SEC sport, thus Fox used the earliest slot for their best game. Oklahoma didn't like that because other schools were playing during the perceived better slots than they were.

**** OU. They can EABOD.

 

[20eyes]

Yeah, me too. But I think it follows the logic that the better games on major channels tend to be later in the day. Which I believe has generally held true. The problem is that ABC owned the night time slot for their best game, CBS owned the midday game for the best SEC sport, thus Fox used the earliest slot for their best game. Oklahoma didn't like that because other schools were playing during the perceived better slots than they were.

Yep, OU has the most insecure b*tch-a$$ed fanbase and administration in the country.

 

[CYCLNST8]

Geez I remember seeing articles with a lot of people saying they wish they’d stayed. I’ll leave it at that. Don’t want this to get sent to the cave.

Screw Colorado. I'd rather invite the Rams to just to twist the knife.

 

[Kinch]

From the grass isn't always greener in the SEC department. Texas A M athletic department has a $28 million budget deficit which has to be repaid to the university. Sounds like their foundation has been forced to step in.

 

[Kinch]

In the past five years the University of Texas has spent approximately 1 billion in its athletic department and had netted exactly two wins against Iowa State in football, spending 500 million for each win. Iowa state has spent approximately 450 million and has had three wins over the Longhorns at a cost of 150 million per win. Pollard is three times more efficient than his counterpart in Austin.

 

[surly]

This has gone quiet which to me suggests they may be close to naming a new commissioner. I'm betting on former K-State president Kirk Schulz. Came from the SEC to Manhattan. Then, a big voice in the P12 conference as WSU president. Likable. Consensus builder.

 

[BigJCy]

This has gone quiet which to me suggests they may be close to naming a new commissioner. I'm betting on former K-State president Kirk Schulz. Came from the SEC to Manhattan. Then, a big voice in the P12 conference as WSU president. Likable. Consensus builder.

 

[CYCLNST8]

While it's fun to downvote @surly 's posts, can anyone offer better/disputing info? More likely candidates? Discussion would be fun.

Personally, I like the idea of bringing in Alabama's Greg Byrne. A cut-throat SEC ideology may be good for this conference in the near future.