They may not have been the final arbiter but they certainly got their way when Nebraska was let in.
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I really don’t understand the Pod hate. Everyone says it’s uneven scheduling, but you literally play more teams more often. It can’t be more uneven than what the B1G schedule is now. The B1G and SEC have more “good teams” because they get to avoid several good teams more often than not.
Who has history and was AAU at the time. Sure, people claim they knew they were losing it, doesn’t change they fact that they were AAU, have a great fan base, history, money, was a new state to add, and regionally fit.
WRNL is under the SBNation banner. All the P5 teams have a blog site under them (https://www.sbnation.com/blogs#college) and most of them take an irreverent angle in a similar vane to WRNL. For 247, CycloneAlert is the ISU site, but yeah, not super interesting.
For other Big10 sites MGoBlog (Michigan) is definitely one of the most active. ElevenWarriors is Ohio St, HuskerBoard for Nebby, obviously HawkeyeNation is their CF. At a quick glance, none of them have much talk about conference expansion right now.
Your points are all true but Nebraska was admitted because of athletics and in spite of their academic stature. It was well-known that Nebraska was losing their AAU status. Their being admitted was the equivalent of a president granting clemency to a bunch of his friends during his last week in office.
Nebraska's not a bad school academically but them being admitted when they were really was a technicality. They probably should have been kicked out as soon as they lost their AAU status.
lol Football has gotten so bad for them, can't say I blame them.
I read a Temple blog a while back suggesting if the AAC doesn't find a decent option they should drop football and try to get into the Big East or A10.
Gun to my head if asked to predict where Iowa State is in 2026, I’d say B1G.
So when pressed he said it was important? If he didn’t bring it up on his own it’s not.
Leaving a year or 2 before the GOR expires is much different than leaving 15 years before it expires. Your getting close Billions of dollars territory in exit fees there, thats way different than 80 million.
This pod system has been trashed for years. Just the name "pod" sounds dumb. Now, reports are that the Big 10 is going semi-crisis mode based on rumors the SEC may go pods and have a mini SEC playoffs? Who again started this expansion/pod talk - Greg Flugaur? Ugh. This is not even smoke in my opinion.
Big Ten made divisions designed mostly with the principle of protecting high value rivalry games the last go around. Did something change? Because you don't really get that from pods. Although I do like getting every team over two years and at home every four, pods will get pretty unbalanced as a scheduling tool from a strength standpoint.
I get that. What I'm saying is, Clemson could explore a new conference for 15 years from now and basically pay nothing outside of being stuck for a while. I'd feel differently, if the GOR always stayed 15 years like an autorenewal every year. Teams will be making best decisions for their entire future, no GOR is going to keep them around forever. Given the SEC taking OU/TX... should the B1G take any PAC teams do you really think Clemson/Florida State are staying in the ACC forever because of a 15 year GOR.
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Thinking anyone is going to make decisions today for 15 years in the future is unrealistic. Its hard for these things to be decided for 2 years from now, because no one can predict how drastically things may change over a few years. Let alone a decade or more.
I think we all know that OuT have always said they will stay 2 more years just as a negotiating tactic to limit their amount of buy out of the remaining GOR, with the probability of them settling and exiting earlier. But with the intention that they could do either play out the remaining contract or pay, whichever they see as the most beneficial. But you can not do this with 15 year length of time, it just doesnt work.
But this is different than trying to predict 15 years in the future and also trying to bargain with that type of length. 1-2 years is not hard, especially when in many cases these GORs are renegotiated 1-2 years before the end of the current 1. Also, the time and money currently involved allows them to really pick the best option, (settle or not) not guess what might happen in the distant future.
None of these conferences or schools are going to make a guess on what might be the situation in 15 years and where the system might be, and hope that their current knowledge gives them the insight to pick what will be best for them in that future. Sure they make decisions today that affects their future, but those decisions are constantly in flux and adjusted as situation and knowledge change. You are not going to make a decision today that you wont realize the results of for 15 years.
That would be like betting your house today, on who is going to be the college National champion in 2036, who they are going to play, what the final score will be, and what the playoff system will be.
I mean look at some of the decisions from a decade ago, I think we all know some of those decisions would not have been made if they knew then what they do now. Can you imagine those same decisions being made then but not going into effect until now? It would be a disaster.
There were other points made that if enough teams are removed then does the ACC still remain or do they dissolve the conference...there were talks of this with the Big 12.
I believe this played out here. Unless every team has a place to go there will always be a conference, regardless of the voting, whether it needs a majority or super majority or whatever. Because as you saw in the Big 12 the majority of voting members changed immediately as soon as OuT announced they were leaving. They lost their voting privileges and the majority changed. As long as there are still members they will vote to remove the leaving members voting rights and they will be able to continue the conference. And as you see in the Big 12 if they add schools there is still a conference to pay, even if one of the OG schools are still there, the conference entity still would survive, and hold the contract.
In reality it usually takes a year plus for a school to move conferences because so many schedules and other things are already set. So being we are talking 1-2 years is not a major deal. And when you are talking about 3 conferences media deals coming due in under 3 years, all of those are going to be negotiated in the next 1-2 years, we are in prime time for more movement. No matter what anyone says, the ACC may ADD, especially if they can get a bump to their deal, but I dont see anyone adding FROM them this round.
WV to ACC, ISU, Kansas to big ten. Big 12 will add teams to make up for us leaving.