Ben Bruns: Mission Statement

Want my unabashed opinion? I think Colin Cowherd is an absolute d-bag. He's an elitist who thinks that the 20+ teams in any given league (perhaps except for the NFL) exist to serve as "beating fodder" for teams that reside in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and San Francisco. He's the kind of guy that looks down at a school like ISU because we're a small school in flyover country that has had historically little to no success in name the relevant sport, and as such we never should have success and should always bow down to the Nebraskas, Oklahomas, Texases, and Iowas on our schedule. However, he says one thing that absolutely resonates with me - "WHY SHOULD someone cheer for a team that refuses to do what it takes to win? How can you possibly elicit change from the powers-that-be if they know that you're going to show up and give them your hard-earned money no matter what product they put on the field?"

WHY SHOULD our fan base measure one's fandom by how willing they'll sit through losing? "You're not a true ISU fan unless you're willing to sit through years of losing on the off chance that once every five years we might make it to some low-tier bowl game." It's asinine - we HAVE to be the only fan base in America that does that. Quite honestly, if I were old enough to be an ISU fan in the 1970s, ISU probably would have lost me in the 1980s and 1990s as there was NO REASONABLE ATTEMPT made to even try to win with any kind of consistency, at least not until Gene Smith and Dan McCarney came along. "We don't need to win at football - we've sucked in the past and been just fine anyway." "We don't need better facilities - the ones we have are just fine, and we're not winning anyway." Meanwhile everyone else tries to improve and to this day we're STILL behind the eight ball.

It's really funny, though - if every school that never succeeded took your advice, you know, the one that says that "why should we have lofty expectations? We've never succeeded before, why should we expect to do so now?" Virginia Tech, Kansas State, Miami, Florida State, and Iowa would have never had the success stories that they have. Prior to Beamer, and Snyder, VT and K-State were nothing in college football. Both Iowa and Florida State went through multiple decades of irrelevance before Fry and Bowden showed up. And you must have thought it was ridiculous that Schnellenburger claimed he would bring Miami a national title within 5 years, simply because they had never done it before.

But yeah - ISU fans have no business expecting more success than a minor bowl game once every 4 or 5 years simply because this school "hasn't done it before" :confused:
 
I have to agree with you on this.

He could post nothing but questions marks and people on here would scream with glee.

I thought his post was kind of a rah, rah type thing that served no purpose. If he wants to tell the players this stuff, tell the players.

Peoples' reactions to his blogs remind me a little of when The City initially started posting here.
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all of RHH's new topics serve a purpose though right? The difference is we are anonymous and when someone like Ben puts somethng out there - he has to live with it.
 
Okay, I guess I will be the first one to pee in the Cheerios here. What is with the Ben Bruns love fest on this website? Every piece of work he puts up on here there is a big long thread proclaiming Ben to be the man and patting him on the back for telling it how it is and telling us how we all need Ben.

What the heck are you guys reading in there that is driving you to stand up and cheer? There isn't a single thing mentioned in that blog that hasn't been discussed to death on this board already. If I went and started a new thread right now with a couple of the points from this latest blog I give it 5 posts before somebody posts the picture of the dude with a stick standing over a dead horse. And I have felt the same way about every one of his blogs so far.

He has written nothing this season that made me stand back and say, wow, I had never thought of that before, that was really thought provoking. So our offense is anemic and our d-line is getting no push and leaving our secondary in coverage too long. Was anybody else floored to hear that? The only difference I can see here is that it is coming from a former player and a program insider. But seeing as this is nothing earth-shattering, I don't think he really needs that credibility to make the point.

Ben issued a challenge to the team, and I think it was a good one. I would say the same to Ben. You are a former player, you are a program insider, you have press credentials and behind the scenes access. Dig deeper, push harder, and get the info and hard hitting analysis that I can't get sitting on my couch watching the game and surfing random posts on CF.

/rant
Basically he used the word "we" a lot when he talked about how his team went from being bad to good over the course of his career. Believing in his team mates and coaches and working harder than the opponent. That is the way it has to be done at ISU. I think he is usually way to dramatic and tries to sound profound but I guess being a former player and a coach I think he hit the nail on the head.
 
Here's my 2 cents:

First of all, for those of you saying "Where are my pads???" (ie: i want to suit up and play) I hope none of the players think like you. My college coach told us there are 365 days per year. You get to play on 11 of them. What really matters is what you do on those other 354 days. Those athletes who have busted their balls for 3,4, 5 years.. it shows. Every old dude on the internet thinks they want to play when its game day in the fall.

Second of all, I hope Brun's comments are heard by the team.. in an indirect sort of way. But wow, i hope they haven't waited until mid october to put their foot down and work hard. Jeesh.
 
Want my unabashed opinion? I think Colin Cowherd is an absolute d-bag. He's an elitist who thinks that the 20+ teams in any given league (perhaps except for the NFL) exist to serve as "beating fodder" for teams that reside in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and San Francisco. He's the kind of guy that looks down at a school like ISU because we're a small school in flyover country that has had historically little to no success in name the relevant sport, and as such we never should have success and should always bow down to the Nebraskas, Oklahomas, Texases, and Iowas on our schedule. However, he says one thing that absolutely resonates with me - "WHY SHOULD someone cheer for a team that refuses to do what it takes to win? How can you possibly elicit change from the powers-that-be if they know that you're going to show up and give them your hard-earned money no matter what product they put on the field?"
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Cowherd is nothing more than a professional version of Matt Perrualt. There is no way he includes Iowa with UT, OU, and NU.

I will go Cowherd, and make up some psychoanalysis bs. He must be insecure, with a poor self image the way he is running from his podunk roots. The guy went from Eastern Washington for goodness sakes!
 
I just wish he would use his experience to tell me the things that a novice like myself doesn't see. It is like a civil engineer coming to me and telling me that New Orleans flooded. Sure, you are the expert, but that doesn't give me squat in the end. Tell me how it failed, why it failed, how you would go about changing it in the future. All the stuff that the average joe just doesn't know.

Ben has this rep around here about having all this knowledge and breaking it down and telling it how it is, but I haven't seen anything to date to show that he has delivered on that. He has lived up to his Cyclone Fanatic reputation about as well as Bo Williams.

I guess my point of view is aimed more at people who are eager to throw somebody under the bus, as if that particular person is the only problem with our team. "It's Arnaud's fault! Put in Tiller!" becomes "It's Tiller's fault! Put in Capello!". How long until we hear people clamoring for Sam Richardson (pull the kid out of HS early, slap a jersey on him! :jimlad:).

Ben presents his perspective on what our weaknesses are and what we need to improve on. That's a perspective I'm interested in hearing. We have plenty of knowledgeable posters here who present similar breakdowns that Ben does, and from my point of view, it's nice to know that we have folks on the board who see things the same way as an All-American does.
 
Want my unabashed opinion? I think Colin Cowherd is an absolute d-bag. He's an elitist who thinks that the 20+ teams in any given league (perhaps except for the NFL) exist to serve as "beating fodder" for teams that reside in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and San Francisco. He's the kind of guy that looks down at a school like ISU because we're a small school in flyover country that has had historically little to no success in name the relevant sport, and as such we never should have success and should always bow down to the Nebraskas, Oklahomas, Texases, and Iowas on our schedule. However, he says one thing that absolutely resonates with me - "WHY SHOULD someone cheer for a team that refuses to do what it takes to win? How can you possibly elicit change from the powers-that-be if they know that you're going to show up and give them your hard-earned money no matter what product they put on the field?"

WHY SHOULD our fan base measure one's fandom by how willing they'll sit through losing? "You're not a true ISU fan unless you're willing to sit through years of losing on the off chance that once every five years we might make it to some low-tier bowl game." It's asinine - we HAVE to be the only fan base in America that does that. Quite honestly, if I were old enough to be an ISU fan in the 1970s, ISU probably would have lost me in the 1980s and 1990s as there was NO REASONABLE ATTEMPT made to even try to win with any kind of consistency, at least not until Gene Smith and Dan McCarney came along. "We don't need to win at football - we've sucked in the past and been just fine anyway." "We don't need better facilities - the ones we have are just fine, and we're not winning anyway." Meanwhile everyone else tries to improve and to this day we're STILL behind the eight ball.

It's really funny, though - if every school that never succeeded took your advice, you know, the one that says that "why should we have lofty expectations? We've never succeeded before, why should we expect to do so now?" Virginia Tech, Kansas State, Miami, Florida State, and Iowa would have never had the success stories that they have. Prior to Beamer, and Snyder, VT and K-State were nothing in college football. Both Iowa and Florida State went through multiple decades of irrelevance before Fry and Bowden showed up. And you must have thought it was ridiculous that Schnellenburger claimed he would bring Miami a national title within 5 years, simply because they had never done it before.

But yeah - ISU fans have no business expecting more success than a minor bowl game once every 4 or 5 years simply because this school "hasn't done it before" :confused:

Very nice post. I'm 65. I've been waiting around for some 55 years for "lofty expectation" to become reality. Hope I don't have to wait around another 55, don't think I have that many in me. But you gotta always hope for the best ,otherwise life ain't much fun - and so far I've had a ton of fun. Hope springs eternal!
 
Good piece, but I disagree with Ben only in that we do have talent on this team. What I see lacking is the leadership and experience we had last year. There's some holes in the middle of that defense and no push up front. Jesse Smith, while not the most talented football player, could lead some guys and make some plays. Our young guns there just don't have it yet, but they will. There's some guys out there playing hard, and I appreciate that, but there needs to be more of them. I haven't given up on this team yet, as we're still in the bowl hunt until we lose 7 games.

For the future, we need to develop some D-linemen, especially ends, that can rush the qb without bringing the linebackers, and we'll be in business. You watch our offense when we get some more cohesion on the O-line and a QB that's been in the system and runs it more seemlessly. I think those guys are there, I believe it.
 
Very nice post. I'm 65. I've been waiting around for some 55 years for "lofty expectation" to become reality. Hope I don't have to wait around another 55, don't think I have that many in me. But you gotta always hope for the best ,otherwise life ain't much fun - and so far I've had a ton of fun. Hope springs eternal!

Keep the faith. I've only been a fan for 30 years but like you I know things are going to be getting better someday. Just hope it's soon... :yes: Can't resist using the "I'm a man...I'm 40" line here (with apologies to the OSU coach).
 
Bruns loves Iowa State and is probably a nice guy (I don't know the man). For the record, I love Iowa State and I am a nice guy.

However, his blog reminds me of many things that frustrate me about the attitudes of many Cyclone fans:

"no one thought preseason that we would win that game" - Wow, not even the coaches and the players?

"The goal for the season, as professed by the Cyclones, was to improve each week." - I am OK with improvement being a goal but the real goal should be competing.

"The thing that is tough for me is that I’m not sure you can or can’t take a step forward against a team with so many more tools than ISU has." - They are called upsets and they happen quite often in CFB.

"ISU just had no spark. Our guys played hard." - I'm not sure I understand how you can have no spark but play hard.

"Our coaches had a game plan and tried to adjust to slow the Sooners." - I thought our coaches were paid to try to win the game...not just slow down the opposition.

"When we were building the program under Coach Mac in the late 90′s" - Dan McCarney at ISU...56-85 (27-68 in conference), one winning conference record and seven seasons winning one or fewer conference games during his 12 year tenure.

"Our coaching staff is fantastic." - I like our current coaching staff but this type of hyperbole is really not warranted at this point. We seem too eager to 'annoint' our coaches at ISU.

"This team doesn’t have the talent to beat the best of the best on our schedule unless our opponent makes huge mistakes" - Obviously, this is a problem. I agree that ISU needs to upgrade the 'talent'...especially in terms of overall team speed. But we seem to have this same discussion over and over at ISU...don't we?

"Dan McCarney finished a couple of kicks short of our goal. How different the conversation today would have been had one of those blocks, tackles, catches, runs, etc.," - And if only 'ifs and buts were candy and nuts'!

"If you’re a prospective student-athlete and want a chance to play early, want a chance to be part of something different, and want to play for a coach who will coach you to be your best because he wants to see the best for you (not because he wants to build a new palatial home outside of town), come to ISU." - What is the 'something different'? You do realize that the type of talent we compete with in our league wants to go to a school that will allow him to get to the next level so he can build a palatial home for him and for his parents...right?

I continue to wonder...who will be our Bobby Bowden (made FSU a FB school), our Frank Beamer (made Va. Tech a FB school)...or to put it closer to home...our Hayden Fry (took over a program with 20 straight losing seasons and resurrected it), or our Bill Snyder (probably the biggest cultural turnaround of any FB program in the last 50 years)?

Who is that man?

GO STATE.
 
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Yeah, a lot like that....except Ben Bruns was an All American here. Honestly, not one single thread can start without people ********. If you are going to ***** about Ben Bruns posting an article, then you are going to ***** if we go 13-0 and only win the national championship but fail to cover the spread.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that about sums up Ross Hall Hero.
 
Bruns loves Iowa State and is probably a nice guy (I don't know the man). For the record, I love Iowa State and I am a nice guy.

However, his blog reminds me of many things that frustrate me about the attitudes of many Cyclone fans:

"no one thought preseason that we would win that game" - Wow, not even the coaches and the players?

"The goal for the season, as professed by the Cyclones, was to improve each week." - I am OK with improvement being a goal but the real goal should be competing.

"The thing that is tough for me is that I’m not sure you can or can’t take a step forward against a team with so many more tools than ISU has." - They are called upsets and they happen quite often in CFB.

"ISU just had no spark. Our guys played hard." - I'm not sure I understand how you can have no spark but play hard.

"Our coaches had a game plan and tried to adjust to slow the Sooners." - I thought our coaches were paid to try to win the game...not just slow down the opposition.

"When we were building the program under Coach Mac in the late 90′s" - Dan McCarney at ISU...56-85 (27-68 in conference), one winning conference record and seven seasons winning one or fewer conference games during his 12 year tenure.

"Our coaching staff is fantastic." - I like our current coaching staff but this type of hyperbole is really not warranted at this point. We seem too eager to 'annoint' our coaches at ISU.

"This team doesn’t have the talent to beat the best of the best on our schedule unless our opponent makes huge mistakes" - Obviously, this is a problem. I agree that ISU needs to upgrade the 'talent'...especially in terms of overall team speed. But we seem to have this same discussion over and over at ISU...don't we?

"Dan McCarney finished a couple of kicks short of our goal. How different the conversation today would have been had one of those blocks, tackles, catches, runs, etc.," - And if only 'ifs and buts were candy and nuts'!

"If you’re a prospective student-athlete and want a chance to play early, want a chance to be part of something different, and want to play for a coach who will coach you to be your best because he wants to see the best for you (not because he wants to build a new palatial home outside of town), come to ISU." - What is the 'something different'? You do realize that the type of talent we compete with in our league wants to go to a school that will allow him to get to the next level so he can build a palatial home for him and for his parents...right?

I continue to wonder...who will be our Bobby Bowden (made FSU a FB school), our Frank Beamer (made Va. Tech a FB school)...or to put it closer to home...our Hayden Fry (took over a program with 20 straight losing seasons and resurrected it), or our Bill Snyder (probably the biggest cultural turnaround of any FB program in the last 50 years)?

Who is that man?

GO STATE.

Its going to be a long winter for you.
 
Bruns loves Iowa State and is probably a nice guy (I don't know the man). For the record, I love Iowa State and I am a nice guy.

However, his blog reminds me of many things that frustrate me about the attitudes of many Cyclone fans:

cyclonenm1, I enjoy and agree with your expectations for ISU. I also share your frustration with neutered ISU fans. Personally, I think CPR will be our Frank Beamer. Why? Because I think he is a lot better than DMac, and DMac was able to get success here while starting with more of a handicap. I mean that as no slight to DMac.

If I recall, you think very highly of Johnny Orr. Can you explain why DMac is not the football equivalent of Johnny Orr?
TIA
 
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Some of these things need to be said by people close to the program. Why sugarcoat what is happening? We need to improve, especially since the conference changes next year. Keep it up, BB.
 
Some of these things need to be said by people close to the program. Why sugarcoat what is happening? We need to improve, especially since the conference changes next year. Keep it up, BB.


you have no concept what it will take for CPR to turn it around. year 4 will be a good indicator.
 
Bruns loves Iowa State and is probably a nice guy (I don't know the man). For the record, I love Iowa State and I am a nice guy.

However, his blog reminds me of many things that frustrate me about the attitudes of many Cyclone fans:

"no one thought preseason that we would win that game" - Wow, not even the coaches and the players?

"The goal for the season, as professed by the Cyclones, was to improve each week." - I am OK with improvement being a goal but the real goal should be competing.

"The thing that is tough for me is that I’m not sure you can or can’t take a step forward against a team with so many more tools than ISU has." - They are called upsets and they happen quite often in CFB.

"ISU just had no spark. Our guys played hard." - I'm not sure I understand how you can have no spark but play hard.

"Our coaches had a game plan and tried to adjust to slow the Sooners." - I thought our coaches were paid to try to win the game...not just slow down the opposition.

"When we were building the program under Coach Mac in the late 90′s" - Dan McCarney at ISU...56-85 (27-68 in conference), one winning conference record and seven seasons winning one or fewer conference games during his 12 year tenure.

"Our coaching staff is fantastic." - I like our current coaching staff but this type of hyperbole is really not warranted at this point. We seem too eager to 'annoint' our coaches at ISU.

"This team doesn’t have the talent to beat the best of the best on our schedule unless our opponent makes huge mistakes" - Obviously, this is a problem. I agree that ISU needs to upgrade the 'talent'...especially in terms of overall team speed. But we seem to have this same discussion over and over at ISU...don't we?

"Dan McCarney finished a couple of kicks short of our goal. How different the conversation today would have been had one of those blocks, tackles, catches, runs, etc.," - And if only 'ifs and buts were candy and nuts'!

"If you’re a prospective student-athlete and want a chance to play early, want a chance to be part of something different, and want to play for a coach who will coach you to be your best because he wants to see the best for you (not because he wants to build a new palatial home outside of town), come to ISU." - What is the 'something different'? You do realize that the type of talent we compete with in our league wants to go to a school that will allow him to get to the next level so he can build a palatial home for him and for his parents...right?

I continue to wonder...who will be our Bobby Bowden (made FSU a FB school), our Frank Beamer (made Va. Tech a FB school)...or to put it closer to home...our Hayden Fry (took over a program with 20 straight losing seasons and resurrected it), or our Bill Snyder (probably the biggest cultural turnaround of any FB program in the last 50 years)?

Who is that man?

GO STATE.

Now that you've finished your thesis (i didn't read all of it since it appears you were picking apart every aspect and downplaying or marginalizing the importance)... Step up to the plate and suggest something. What now? Where do we go from here? You got extra money to pitch in? You got some in roads with a program changing recruit? This is a process, ISU is at a natural disadvantage at this point in time. Bowden, Fry, Ferentz and Snyder did not win in their first couple years. When the scale tips in ISU's favor we will be in position to take advantage of that situation, that's what we're building now.
 
you have no concept what it will take for CPR to turn it around. year 4 will be a good indicator.

Frankly, it will most likely take longer than year four at this rate. We have four very tough games on the schedule IMO each year, and that means we have to win six out of eight to go to a minor bowl.

It still comes down to attracting speedy recruits who stick in the prgram. The question is will we be able to attract them any time soon.

That said, I am not sure how many years the fan base will wait. The 70s were the best years for the program. Some of the oldtimers are passing on.
 
Bruns loves Iowa State and is probably a nice guy (I don't know the man). For the record, I love Iowa State and I am a nice guy.

However, his blog reminds me of many things that frustrate me about the attitudes of many Cyclone fans:

"no one thought preseason that we would win that game" - Wow, not even the coaches and the players?

"The goal for the season, as professed by the Cyclones, was to improve each week." - I am OK with improvement being a goal but the real goal should be competing.

"The thing that is tough for me is that I’m not sure you can or can’t take a step forward against a team with so many more tools than ISU has." - They are called upsets and they happen quite often in CFB.

"ISU just had no spark. Our guys played hard." - I'm not sure I understand how you can have no spark but play hard.

"Our coaches had a game plan and tried to adjust to slow the Sooners." - I thought our coaches were paid to try to win the game...not just slow down the opposition.

"When we were building the program under Coach Mac in the late 90′s" - Dan McCarney at ISU...56-85 (27-68 in conference), one winning conference record and seven seasons winning one or fewer conference games during his 12 year tenure.

"Our coaching staff is fantastic." - I like our current coaching staff but this type of hyperbole is really not warranted at this point. We seem too eager to 'annoint' our coaches at ISU.

"This team doesn’t have the talent to beat the best of the best on our schedule unless our opponent makes huge mistakes" - Obviously, this is a problem. I agree that ISU needs to upgrade the 'talent'...especially in terms of overall team speed. But we seem to have this same discussion over and over at ISU...don't we?

"Dan McCarney finished a couple of kicks short of our goal. How different the conversation today would have been had one of those blocks, tackles, catches, runs, etc.," - And if only 'ifs and buts were candy and nuts'!

"If you’re a prospective student-athlete and want a chance to play early, want a chance to be part of something different, and want to play for a coach who will coach you to be your best because he wants to see the best for you (not because he wants to build a new palatial home outside of town), come to ISU." - What is the 'something different'? You do realize that the type of talent we compete with in our league wants to go to a school that will allow him to get to the next level so he can build a palatial home for him and for his parents...right?

I continue to wonder...who will be our Bobby Bowden (made FSU a FB school), our Frank Beamer (made Va. Tech a FB school)...or to put it closer to home...our Hayden Fry (took over a program with 20 straight losing seasons and resurrected it), or our Bill Snyder (probably the biggest cultural turnaround of any FB program in the last 50 years)?

Who is that man?

GO STATE.
Very good post all together. At times Bruns solidifies the "typical" Cyclone. I mean you think the players take the schedule and circle the games they should win and should compete in and then X out the games they think they are overmatched? I know Bruns was a football player, but he must have lost the football player mentality. When you suit up, you know you have a chance.
 
Frankly, it will most likely take longer than year four at this rate. We have four very tough games on the schedule IMO each year, and that means we have to win six out of eight to go to a minor bowl.

It still comes down to attracting speedy recruits who stick in the prgram. The question is will we be able to attract them any time soon.

That said, I am not sure how many years the fan base will wait. The 70s were the best years for the program. Some of the oldtimers are passing on.

Absolutely true. I can't believe I'm doing this BUT; I submit Gary Pinkel as an example. All the pundits had Pinkel on the hot seat for a couple years before the big improvements came.

It's a good question; how long will the fanbase wait? Personally I'm ready to give Rhoads a lot of latitude if we see obvious improvements in year four.
 

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