When’s the last time KSU had to replace 13 starters (and without Bill)? Guessing it’s been awhile.
athlon ranks 'em all ...
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I've been through this already. You and others here refuse to accept the facts, like one of those reserves, Josh Rivas, being picked as the best interior lineman in the country. Skylar Thompson is on all the QB watch lists. And so on ... This is just a silly argument to have now as shown by history. I've laid out mine. We'll see who is correct when/if they play this year.
Pro Football Focus on Monday named Josh Rivas, a rising fourth-year junior, the nation’s top returning interior lineman. Rivas edged out Minnesota center John Michael Schmitz, Ohio State guard Wyatt Davis, Iowa center Tyler Linderbaum and Illinois center Doug Kramer — who comprised the rest of PFF’s top five — for the honor. Rivas was the only Big 12 representative in the top eight. It’s not the first time Rivas earned praise from PFF, which selected him to its All-Big 12 first team in December.
https://themercury.com/k_state_spor...cle_fc3fad2c-b6e6-5d38-bd50-ed86e2cd38b2.html
Pro Football Focus on Monday named Josh Rivas, a rising fourth-year junior, the nation’s top returning interior lineman. Rivas edged out Minnesota center John Michael Schmitz, Ohio State guard Wyatt Davis, Iowa center Tyler Linderbaum and Illinois center Doug Kramer — who comprised the rest of PFF’s top five — for the honor. Rivas was the only Big 12 representative in the top eight. It’s not the first time Rivas earned praise from PFF, which selected him to its All-Big 12 first team in December.
https://themercury.com/k_state_spor...cle_fc3fad2c-b6e6-5d38-bd50-ed86e2cd38b2.html
Sorry Surly. It's not just like.....Gramps is gone and he's not coming back for round 3.
If we are in the preseason Top 25 and the season is canceled do we get to claim a Top 25 finish for the 2020 season? 
If you believe Chris Klieman can't coach, there's no room for argument from my corner.
Grampa is gone. I know you want Klieman to be the next Gramps, but the last time you tried to replace him it didn't work out so well. Let's see where Klieman is at after 3 or 4 years.
Sweet.
If only you had 7 or 8 more talented guys like that, you might crush that 6-6 projection.
WR 4 Knowles, Malik RS SO - • 2019 Honorable Mention Big 12 Offensive Freshman of the Year (Coaches)
WR 23 Youngblood, Joshua SO - • 2020 Preseason All-Big 12
• 2019 All-American [kr] (ESPN)
• 2019 Second Team All-American [kr] (CBS Sports, FWAA)
• 2019 First Team Freshman All-American [all-purpose] (The Athletic)
• 2019 First Team Freshman All-American (The Athletic)
• 2019 Big 12 Special Teams Player of the Year (Coaches)
• 2019 First Team All-Big 12 [kr/pr] (Coaches)
• 2019 First Team All-Big 12 [all-purpose] (Associated Press)
WR 21 Gill, Wykeen RS SR - starter
LT 50 Beebe, Cooper RS FR - zero
LG 76 Rivas, Josh RS JR - 2019 Second Team All-Big 12 (Associated Press)
C 69 Johnson, Noah RS SR/TR - zero
RG 63 Adler, Ben RS JR - zero
RT 73 Duffie, Christian RS SO - zero
TE 00 Moore, Briley GR - uni transfer/all mvc as junior
FB 87 Lenners, Nick RS SR - • 2020 Preseason All-Big 12
• 2019 First Team All-Big 12 (Coaches)
QB 10 Thompson, Skylar SR - • 2020 Maxwell Award watch list
• 2020 Manning Award watch list
• 2020 Wuerffel Trophy watch list
• 2019 Honorable Mention All-Big 12 (Coaches)
• 2019 Maxwell Award Player of the Week (Oklahoma)
• 2019 Davey O’Brien Award Great 8 List (Oklahoma)
• 2019 Manning Award Star of the Week (Oklahoma)
• 2019 Liberty Bowl Team Offensive MVP
• 2019 Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award watch list
• 2017 Honorable Mention Big 12 Offensive Freshman of the Year (Coaches)
RB 2 Trotter, Harry RS SR/TR - 2019 rotation
DEFENSE
DE 56 Hubert, Wyatt RS JR - • 2020 Preseason All-Big 12
• 2020 Bednarik Award watch list
• 2019-20 Bronko Nagurski Trophy watch list
• 2019 First Team All-Big 12 (Coaches, Associated Press)
• 2019 Honorable Mention Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year (Coaches)
• 2019 Honorable Mention Big 12 Defensive Lineman of the Year (Coaches)
• 2019 Ted Hendricks Award candidate
• 2018 Freshman All-American (USA TODAY)
DT 90 Massie, Bronson RS - 2019 rotation
DT 59 Wiley, Drew SR - 2019 rotation
DE 93 Pickle, Jaylen RS SO - zero
WLB 3 Sullivan, Elijah RS SR - 2019 Honorable Mention All-Big 12 (Coaches)
MLB 32 Hughes, Justin RS SR - 2019 captain/injured
NB 31 McPherson, Jahron RS SR/TR - starter
CB 12 Parker, AJ RS SR - • 2019 Honorable Mention All-Big 12 (Coaches)
SS 4 Jones, Wayne RS SO - starter
FS 17 Alexander, Jonathan SR/TR - starter
CB 15 Neil Jr., Walter RS SR - starter
Could be a .500 team but honestly, that’s a roster that’s on the lower end of the conference in both talent and experience.