Assistant coach rumor I am hearing
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Well, if we do have interest, we've legimately scraped the bottom of the barrel.
He played at Iowa State and was really good. Let's hire him. He was nice when he went to Iowa State. He dressed really well.
My point is that any coach has to start somewhere. He has a ton of experience playing the game. Players can and will respect that and will listen to him. IMO, I don't think we would hire him with the expectation he will be the number one assistant.
Honestly though, has anything recently given you the impression that we are not at the bottom of the barrel ready to start scraping? I'm not saying hiring Grayer is scraping the bottom of the barrel, but if anyone thinks things are still going well enough to be incredibly picky with coaches or recruits, they are delusional.
I look at our program over the past 4 years and I have seen a lot of "fresh young players" come and go.
However, the two constants over that 4 years have been GM as our HC and losing records (especially in conference play). I think these two things are connected. Therefore for our program to live up to the potential it has I believe we need a new HC.
While i agree our feet are touching the bottom, in order to rise to the top we probably need to address the GMac brand cement shoes we're wearing if we want to rise to the top again..
Yeah, because no other schools are smart enough to hire ex-players to be assistant coaches. It'll give us a real edge.
Grayer: "Look guy, I played here. It was awesome. You'll be a king on campus. Sure, you won't win much and won't know who your coach will be after your freshman year, but people will know you play basketball because you're so tall and that'll go a long ways around here. I'm black, too, in case you hadn't noticed. Did I tell you I played in the NBA?"
Player: "Yes, and I told you I wasn't born when that happened. By the way, what were you doing prior to coming to ISU as an assistant."
Grayer: "Well, I was just fired for job performance issues. Thanks for asking. Are you ready to sign yet?"
Regardless of how you feel about Grayer, this post is one of the funniest ever written on this site, "in case you hadn't noticed".
Greg McDermott has no credibility in the college basketball coaching world. He thus has to go outside it in order to find coaches.
He has to fall back on his own friends, and friends of Iowa State in order to fill up his staff. Not saying that's a bad thing- it's good to have nice friends who are able to help you out.
He has to fall back on his own friends, and friends of Iowa State in order to fill up his staff. Not saying that's a bad thing- it's good to have nice friends who are able to help you out.
the only SHRED of optimism I've had is hearing about Grayer but only given he can coach. I don't know anything about Nick Nurse, so I can't get "excited" about that, but if Grayer can coach I think it's a small reason to be optimistic.
If I told you that we were hiring a guy for assistant coach that has no college coaching experience, no experience recruiting for college basketball, and has only coached once on a CBA team, but he was a good college basketball player. would you want to hire him? No, So i don't understand why people would be excited about Jeff Grayer as an assistant coach. It is just a publicity stunt by JP and Greg to try and get some good will.
Nick Nurse is intriguing because he has been a head coach and he must be able to relate to players well, but he has not a known recruitier either and has never coached on the college level. So we are potentially hiring two coaches with no experience coaching or recruiting on the college level. Sounds Great! Plus we might lost another coach in TJ
Nick Nurse is intriguing because he has been a head coach and he must be able to relate to players well, but he has not a known recruitier either and has never coached on the college level. So we are potentially hiring two coaches with no experience coaching or recruiting on the college level. Sounds Great! Plus we might lost another coach in TJ
Exactly, Grayer is indeed a publicity stunt. Will keep the oldies happy. The same oldies that were delighted when today's young generation of players were blamed for our debacle. Would a school like Northeastern Alabama Tech hire Grayer?
This is the reason I said "if he can coach." As I said before last night, you can be the smartest guy in the world at something and you may be able to breeze through doing work (i.e. playing basketball games... scoring, rebounding etc well), but you may not be able to teach others how to do what you do so well. We've all had teachers before that were really smart, but they couldn't teach you how to do anything worth a ****.
So I agree with you about Grayer, although just because he's never coached in college doesn't mean he's not a good coach and on that same token just because he was a great ball player doesn't mean he actually knows how to teach others how to do what he did.
I'm not saying this is the case, but it could lead down a slippery slope. I'm hoping he's a good coach/teacher though if we hire him...
Oh, sorry, i wasn't referring to you. I was kind of saying "you" in general. like everyone out there. But i agree with you that when you first hear the that Grayer will be part of the staff it does kind of give me some optimism. But it is heavily tempered. I think that if we brought him in like KU did with Manning it would be a good thing. Manning was hired as the head of "student-athlete development" and a team manager and spent a few years there before being an assistant coach. I think that would make sense. That way he could learn for a few years. I just don't like the idea of bringing in two people who have no college coaching experience. I guess Gregg doesn't have much choice at this point.
I wouldn't worry too much about fielding a team. I have it from a very good source* that Grayer is bringing in a quality recruit with him. The kid is a scorerer, rebounder, with a mean streak on defense. The only drawback is he has bad knees.
(*My source is Dave McCartney)
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