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Arnaud vs. Stanzi

ISU_Alum_2000 said:
Both teams appear to have quality QBs that each fan base is happy with. That's good for both programs.

I would like to see a comparison of Arnaud and Stanzi's rushing stats, also.
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Arnaud had 5 tds and far more rushing yards. Stanzi is much more capable of picking up the necessary yards or making people miss than one would think by looking at him though.

The one thing I do say with confidence is that while Iowa may be better with Arnaud at qb, ISU would not be better with Stanzi at qb.
 
AA is a way better quaterback. that just the way it is. dont forget that AA ran for 500+ yards as well. dual-threat, big arm, very accurate, less support around him. AA by a ton!
 
This isn't really even a debate. AA wins this easily.

That being said, RS is going to be a nice QB for Iowa for the next 2 seasons.

If you think about it, they really are similar styles, bigger athletic guys that can move. AA just is better at all those things that Stanzi is.
 
AA will never have a great defense and

real good oline like Stanzi. Plus how much crap has the isu program been through lately, where Stanzi has the steady even keel coach n system. I think Vandenberg will be a star in the near future though.
 
Not worried about Stanzi because he likely

won't be the starter next year. Have it from a source that can't be much better that Stanzi was not the best quarterback in practice.

I expect Stanzi to be replaced.

Oh, and if you have watched both play, no one who knows anything about football would pick Stanzi over Arnaud. Stanzi is not a very good quarterback.
 
D UP Clones said:
won't be the starter next year. Have it from a source that can't be much better that Stanzi was not the best quarterback in practice.

I expect Stanzi to be replaced.

Oh, and if you have watched both play, no one who knows anything about football would pick Stanzi over Arnaud. Stanzi is not a very good quarterback.
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cardinalNgold said:
I would take AA and Tiller both over Stanzi.
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lolwut
 
ketelmeister said:
While Stanzi won more games, he had the benefit of a stronger OL and more sound coaching.
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He also had the benefit of one of the best RB's in the nation last year. That tends to take a lot of focus off rushing/defending the QB position.

I'd take Arnaud hands down over any competition I've seen in this state in recentlly. He's athletic, got a strong enough arm to through any pattern called, and smart/intuitive enough to know when to tuck and run without giving up on a play early.

I'm excited to see what Tiller can do, simply because if he gets the job, it's because he's a hell of a QB, not just the lesser of two evils.
 
Re: Not worried about Stanzi because he likely

D UP Clones said:
won't be the starter next year. Have it from a source that can't be much better that Stanzi was not the best quarterback in practice.

I expect Stanzi to be replaced.

Oh, and if you have watched both play, no one who knows anything about football would pick Stanzi over Arnaud. Stanzi is not a very good quarterback.
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1. Considering that spring practice for Iowa doesn't start until the 25th, I doubt this is the case, no matter what the friend of your cousin who knows some guy who is roomates with the equipment manager says.

2. It'll be interesting to see if you hold that opinion come August.

3. Well, I guess that ends the debate then - D UP Clones has spoken. Close the thread.
 
Re: Not worried about Stanzi because he likely

TarHeelHawk said:
1. Considering that spring practice for Iowa doesn't start until the 25th, I doubt this is the case, no matter what the friend of your cousin who knows some guy who is roomates with the equipment manager says.

2. It'll be interesting to see if you hold that opinion come August.

3. Well, I guess that ends the debate then - D UP Clones has spoken. Close the thread.
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Maybe Stanzi looked bad on the 360.
 
Okay really, I can't believe people are still commenting on this thread. Everybody is going to pick Austen Arnaud, because he plays for ISU. I don't think i have seen any ISU fans pick Stanzi. Not like I would expect it. ITS YOUR RIVAL TEAM. Close this thread.
 
The Iowa games I saw, Stanzi looked good. He is a different QB that Arnaud, but accurate thrower and manages the team well. Exactly what Iowa needs. I don't see him being replaced at all. AA looked very good at times (second half of UNLV) but needs to be more consistant. Herman likes what he sees, and that's good enough for me. But as for who is better, the win loss record this year will determine it for me.
 
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Put Stanzi behind a much poorer quality line AND THENn put him behind on the scoreboard 80% of the time. Then then see what his numbers look like. Any QB that is playing catch up most of the time is going to make throws that he normally would not.
 
ketelmeister said:
But as for who is better, the win loss record this year will determine it for me.
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How will the win-loss record determine who is the better quarterback? Arnaud can hardly be held responsible for the fact that ISU had the worst defense in major college football last year. We could have had Peyton Manning at QB and we still wouldn't have won much more than 2 games with a defense that gave up touchdowns like we had 8 men on the field. Would that mean Stanzi is a better QB than Peyton Manning?
 
SouthernHawk said:
lolwut
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As much as it pains me, I have to agree with SH. Common sense needed to the two he was referring to.

As far as Stanzi goes, I would compare him to some of the recent Iowa quarterbacks--Chandler, McCann, and maybe a little of Drew Tate. He's not a bad player, by any means, but he seems like a caretaker, like the rest of those guys seemed to be. The only non-caretaker that I can remember in the recent past was the guy who finished second in the Heisman balloting--Brad Banks. I still say he was definitely a good player and deserved to start for two years, rather than the one year he got.

That all being said, and as I am a huge Iowa State fan, I can't not pick Arnaud. Austen looks to have a pretty solid year this year, if his statistics from last year are taken into account, along with those of Chase Clement, the Rice quarterback from last season. He seems to have a better natural skill set (as has been discussed ad nauseum here) and has been through the mill as far as coaches go. Next year will be good for him, to see some stability and some good coaching, for once.
 
MontyBurns said:
How will the win-loss record determine who is the better quarterback? Arnaud can hardly be held responsible for the fact that ISU had the worst defense in major college football last year. We could have had Peyton Manning at QB and we still wouldn't have won much more than 2 games with a defense that gave up touchdowns like we had 8 men on the field. Would that mean Stanzi is a better QB than Peyton Manning?
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Exactly. We would've needed 20 guys playing defense the way we played just to slow people down.

No QB makes up for that defense.
 
MontyBurns said:
How will the win-loss record determine who is the better quarterback? Arnaud can hardly be held responsible for the fact that ISU had the worst defense in major college football last year. We could have had Peyton Manning at QB and we still wouldn't have won much more than 2 games with a defense that gave up touchdowns like we had 8 men on the field. Would that mean Stanzi is a better QB than Peyton Manning?
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The world if full of quarterbacks with good statistics who never end up winning. Manning won with a team full of injuries at the start of the season...he carried he team. Quite frankly, I do think we would have won more games with Manning at QB, are you kidding?
 
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