Arlen/Yackley to Transfer

A lot of this comes from parents who can't handle their daughter being put through adversity.

Unfortunately this is too true. It's not just daughters, sons can get the same treatment. Also, it's not just the athletes who think they are entitled to something. It's parents who also think their kid is entitled to everything right when they step on campus. As I said earlier in the thread, most of these players have always been the focal point of teams they've been on, and it's much different in Division 1 athletics.
 
Sports should be for fun. None of these girls are going to be professional athletes. I wish coaches at all levels would take a step backwards and realize this is just a game. Whether Iowa State or whoever wins a ballgame is not going to solve the recession, find a cure for aids, feed all of the starving people in the world, or solve any other problems.
 
120 comments about the girls that are leaving and it all comes from the parents?...isu lost a baseball team to politics ??? not other women...15 girls looking to play is healthy...keep it that way...and oh yea when jp calls get your checkbook out!!! SUPPORT the Cyclones with action not just words
 
Sports should be for fun. None of these girls are going to be professional athletes. I wish coaches at all levels would take a step backwards and realize this is just a game. Whether Iowa State or whoever wins a ballgame is not going to solve the recession, find a cure for aids, feed all of the starving people in the world, or solve any other problems.

It's a game to an extent. These aren't entertainment toys, but most of them are getting paid (scholarships) to play. It's more than just for fun. They owe it to the University and fans to be 1) the best students they can be and 2) the best basketball players they can be.
 
Coach Fenn has done at ISU what nobody else has even come close too...he is still the best thing that ever happened to womens basketball...was that ever debated...no
 
Sports should be for fun.

Maybe so, but that's not the way it is. Check out the ISU Athletic Department budget. Varsity athletics at the major college level are a multi-million dollar enterprise. That makes it a rather serious business. That doesn't mean you can't have fun doing it.
 
Sports should be for fun. None of these girls are going to be professional athletes. I wish coaches at all levels would take a step backwards and realize this is just a game. Whether Iowa State or whoever wins a ballgame is not going to solve the recession, find a cure for aids, feed all of the starving people in the world, or solve any other problems.



That is a nice thought...but not reality.

It is big time sport with big time dollars attached.
 
That is a nice thought...but not reality.

It is big time sport with big time dollars attached.
Maybe we need to overhaul the system and put a cap on coaches salaries and say the highest paid coach can not make more than the highest paid professor.
 
never happen.

It'd be unenforceable. It'd just be a luxury tax: one lucky professor would make salary equal to the highest-paid coach.

I think what akaclone was saying in an earlier post (and she can correct me if I'm wrong) is that Div I sports at the highest level is not for the weak-stomached. It wasn't an indictment of the specific situation at ISU. It was just a statement of what high-level Div I sports is about.

By the end of this past season, we had a team that could execute a gameplan better than anyone in the country, and we reached levels most teams dream of despite having no consistent offensive threat, no superstars, and a general reputation for being unathletic. We got to that point through hard work and determination.
 
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Unless you don't win enough, then you get fired or run out.

Right. For coaches, this is their job. They make big money, and they work 80- or 100-hour weeks to earn that money. Fans have a "win now" mentality, and if you don't, you're gone without a second thought.

This used to just be the domain of football and MBB, but it has crept into WBB and other high-popularity non-revenue sports as well. As long as a sport has coaches making north of $150K, you are going to have schools holding those coaches on a short leash.
 
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he has been nothing but good for EVERY player that ever played for him.

Interesting. An exact quote from a former All Big 12 player(now a successful coach), when asked about playing for BF:

"I absolutely respect his basketball knowledge - and the role he has played in building the program. But if a bus hit him tomorrow - I wouldn't be at the funeral."
 
Interesting. An exact quote from a former All Big 12 player(now a successful coach), when asked about playing for BF:

"I absolutely respect his basketball knowledge - and the role he has played in building the program. But if a bus hit him tomorrow - I wouldn't be at the funeral."



Not true/hearsay unless linked.
 
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Interesting. An exact quote from a former All Big 12 player(now a successful coach), when asked about playing for BF:

"I absolutely respect his basketball knowledge - and the role he has played in building the program. But if a bus hit him tomorrow - I wouldn't be at the funeral."

I really don't know if I believe this until I see the actual quote somewhere.

I will say this though, how many people have played for a coach that they have not liked as a person or at some point said something to them that hit a little too close and really hurt at the time? How many of those people looked back at it down the road and realized that they were right and it probably needed to be said?
 
Not true/hearsay unless linked.

Absolutely true. Impossible to link as this was in a private conversation with me.

This has become an extremely unproductive thread.

There's only one former ISU player I can think of that fits this description...


Disagree slightly. While BF is an outstanding coach with a terrific record - there are nonetheless elements of his personality/style that are not universally admired by players, parents and fans. I was simply responding to an absolute statement by ms3765 that I know to be untrue.

I didn't say what level, or where she coaches. I'm sure with your spreadsheet you can come up with the name, but I think it best that we not.
 
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