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Are we a tournament team?

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  • No - NIT baby!

    Votes: 13 10.5%
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jereseib said:
The problem with your rationale is the committee doesn't have much experience dealing with this kind of situation because most tournament teams don't lose 10 out of 13 to close the year.

The only thing remotely comparable is Iowa in 2014, they were showing up as a 3 in mid February then lost 6 out of 7 to close the year and ended up in Dayton.

I think this team will go on losing 8 of 10. That's a huge outlier so you don't have anymore evidence of them getting a 6 or 7 than us who think we are more like a 10 or 11.
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Again you caught up in antiquated process that is no longer used.
As I explained to you they don't look at dates of wins and losses. It's simply here is who you beat and here is who beat you. They look for things like quad 1 wins and quad 3 for 4 losses. Dates do not matter.
Not my criteria, the committee's.
Bracket matrix said composite as of today says ISU is highest 5.

Last year it had ISU after Big 12 blowout loss to Tech had ISU as a 10, I believe the lowest 10.
ISU ended up an 11

Given these facts why do you think they will deviate from the process? Again knowing no dates of wins and losses are applied to criteria.

Dealing in those facts give me up to date reasons why they are a 10 or 11

It's going to be at worst a 7, probably a 6
 
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fsanford said:
Again you caught up in antiquated process that is no longer used.
As I explained to you they don't look at dates of wins and losses. It's simply here is who you beat and here is who beat you. They look for things like quad 1 wins and quad 3 for 4 losses. Dates do not matter.
Not my criteria, the committee's.
Bracket matrix said composite as of today says ISU is highest 5.

Last year it had ISU after Big 12 blowout loss to Tech had ISU as a 10, I believe the lowest 10.
ISU ended up an 11

Given these facts why do you think they will deviate from the process? Again knowing no dates of wins and losses are applied to criteria.

It's going to be at worst a 7, probably a 6
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When the committee looks at a team sheet- the dates may not even be on there. I believe they are listed by Quads and margin of victory. The dates could be on there but they are not arranged by date.
 
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BigBake said:
Jerry Palm seemingly giving ammo to the naysayers.

www.cbssports.com

Bracketology: Iowa State falls in bracket, now on NCAA Tournament bubble after loss to West Virginia

The slumping Cyclones fell to a No. 8 seed in the projected NCAA Tournament bracket
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com

Doesn't sound like those saying "we're not a lock" are as crazy as you think.
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ISU's NET is 20 points higher than last year, and they made it. Jerry did come in last year at 125 out of 148 in bracket accuracy. So there is that.
 
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FYI Palm is awful at this, and so is Lunardi. Palm has us an 8. Lunardi has us a 6...why aren't you cliffdwellers posting that and only Jerry fuckinng Palm?
 
dahliaclone said:
You also gotta love Palm putting Iowa State as a 'bubble' team and then you look down that Q1 column and one team is literally heads and shoulders above everyone else and is a massive outlier.

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The weirdest part of Palm's "analysis" to me is what he wrote here.

"They have fallen down to a No. 8 seed in Tuesday's bracket. That would be the best seed ever given to a team that was below .500 against the top three quadrants in the 30 years I have been doing brackets. Because of the strength of schedule in the Big 12, it is not unreasonable to think that a team from that league with such a record could get a little higher seed than before, but not much.

Another odd thing about the Cyclones schedule is that all but five of their games are either Quad 1 or Quad 4. So that Quad 1-3 record does not get much help outside of Quad 1."

He brings up the point that we would have the worst record ever against the top 3 quadrants to get an 8-seed or higher in the tournament in his 30 years of studying this, but then he also points out how we've only had 5 Q2/Q3 games. That is the definition of an outlier profile to have THAT many Q1 games and so little Q2/Q3 games, which then makes a higher seed make sense. Outlier inputs create outlier results.
 
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Palm had Iowa State out of the tourney many weeks during the Royce and Clyburn years. He is a hack. With that said, I absolutely can see us as a 9 seed.
 
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