Guess the KU “money” was a lot bigger than ISU’s.Pat Rooney put KU 4th and ISU 11th on his ballot.
Where each voter put ISU is right here:
Iowa State Cyclones Basketball at College Poll Tracker
collegepolltracker.com
You can click on the name and it will pull up their social media accounts. Make sure you hit the thumbs down for the truly terrible ballots.
AP has Kansas back ahead of ISU lol
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This is why we need to avoid the East bracket and secure an Omaha/MW region path.
Crazy that ISU's lowest rated pollster last week was Nick Alvarez at 14 (lol). This week he jumped them all the way up to 5th and the actual rank dropped.
The AP poll and Coaches poll have no bearing on the NCAA tournament selection. NONE
Exactly. Lots of variability in early season games, especially depending on how many players are returning on each team, etc.
A team full of newcomers will be way more vulnerable early than a team with a lot returning, so which is the better judgement of quality, early or later games? Clearly it's later games.
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I would say you don't know that for certain. At the end of the day the slection and seeding is done through a series of ballots, and you never know what may influence individual votes. You hope they don't let AP and Coaches poll influence them but you never know.
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El Paso journalist Bret Bloomquist put 14-14 ASU on his ballot at 9th. They need to rescind his voting rights right now. Not a single other voter ranked them.
Yeah, you are right, to a point.
But the committee that pick the teams do see them so they have a way of swaying their opinions. Just like ESPNs constant love fest for the SEC sways peoples opinions.
In the end it has no bearing, but it does have a bearing on peoples mindset about the top teams.
And as I said, when reporters....are predicting the Tournament Bracket, its hard for them to justify putting Kansas at 2 and ISU at 3 when they have ISU ranked ahead on their poll.
ie. like I said, they have to justify, picking KU ahead of ISU on their tourney predictions.
That's a weird selection.
Based on his previous ballot, he almost had to have submitted something incorrectly.
Week 16 he had Arizona #3, Washington State #20 and ASU unranked.
Week 17 it's Arizona #6, WSU #21 and ASU at 9.
So the crossover of Wazzu-over-Zona then losing at Arizona State doesn't explain it.
I don't know how AP voting is submitted anymore, if something could go haywire digitally, or if there's some kind of verification element.
There's also a possibility he doesn't know what he's doing.
It would be KU the 2. But yes a rational mind would put us there. I'm sadly pointing out an all to real scenario.