AP and USA Today polls out
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This is looking possible for OSU, ISU and the BIG XII. Is that right?
OSU closed the gap really really well. They were around 400 pts down in the polls last week and are 50 today. They need to sweep the computers. But I think they can and I think they are in.
If my thinking is right. OSU is close enough and the computers are going to put em over the top.
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Never mind. I think this means that OSU needs to grab some #1's in the computers. Does that sound accurate. I don't see how ala could be knocked out of #3's for the computers. I thought there would be, but now that I look at it. I don't think they drop any further than 3's in the the computers. OSU's going to have to take some 1's, is that right?
Oh duh forgot the harris was the relavent poll not the AP. Well that could be good yet.
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Gaining ground is good. Hopefully the computers put Okie St. second. I'd really like to see them in the NC game.
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For those keeping score at home for OSU/AL.:
USA Today: OSU behind 32 points to AL
Computers: OSU and AL will be #2 and #3 in all 6 of the computer rankings, most likely is either splitting 3/3 or OSU having the advantage at 4/2. Two computer rankings had OSU at #2 last week so those will stay the same and we know for sure Sagarin has OSU at #3 this week and have heard at least one other will have OSU at #3.
Harris Poll: Hasn't been releases yet, historically has more movement in the final week than the coach's poll and has not liked rematches in the past. My prediction is a slight edge to OSU over AL in the Harris.
USA Today: OSU behind 32 points to AL
Computers: OSU and AL will be #2 and #3 in all 6 of the computer rankings, most likely is either splitting 3/3 or OSU having the advantage at 4/2. Two computer rankings had OSU at #2 last week so those will stay the same and we know for sure Sagarin has OSU at #3 this week and have heard at least one other will have OSU at #3.
Harris Poll: Hasn't been releases yet, historically has more movement in the final week than the coach's poll and has not liked rematches in the past. My prediction is a slight edge to OSU over AL in the Harris.
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I think there is no doubt the computers do. Some may even put them #1. Not likely but still somewhat possible. I can't give a good guess because I haven't been able to get to the computer sites to see how close OSU was last week to being number 1 in Anderson Hester and the other previous #2. UHHH JUST READ YOUR SAGARIN AND 1 OTHER POLL INFO. GETTING TOO TIGHT.
If harris comes in even remotely close to the coaches, OSU only needs to sweep the computer #2's. I think I finally have the calcs right. The other thread might have already come to this conclusion, but unless harris is vastly different from the coaches I'm fairly certain, OSU is in.
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The voters watched SportCenter, College Football Final, and maybe some of the games. If you did that, here's what you heard.
SportsCenter/College Football Final: Breakdowns of the rematch, rematches are good, Alabama is clearly #2 because they pass the eyeball (read: bias) test, Oklahoma State wouldn't have a chance against LSU or Alabama
SEC Championship Game: One-loss SEC teams are better than undefeated teams from "lesser" conferences, Alabama is the only team that could possibly beat LSU, there should be a rematch
Bedlam: Oklahoma has key players out, the game wasn't "turning into a blowout" until it was 41-3 in the 3rd quarter, Alabama is still the #2 team and Mike Gundy said so last week
When you have the major college football media so blatantly pushing for a rematch, that's going to sway a lot of voters. ESPN knows that Alabama gets higher TV ratings than Oklahoma State. CBS's SEC TV packages benefits from the perception that the SEC is by far the best conference.
ESPN knew somebody had to make the case for Okie State so they had Lou Holtz (who they know people think is a doofus) give the weakest possible argument for them, while also saying he thinks Alabama is better.
The reporting and analysis has been completely agenda-driven. It shouldn't surprise anybody, but ESPN has no interest in a true national championship game. They want a made for TV spectacle.
SportsCenter/College Football Final: Breakdowns of the rematch, rematches are good, Alabama is clearly #2 because they pass the eyeball (read: bias) test, Oklahoma State wouldn't have a chance against LSU or Alabama
SEC Championship Game: One-loss SEC teams are better than undefeated teams from "lesser" conferences, Alabama is the only team that could possibly beat LSU, there should be a rematch
Bedlam: Oklahoma has key players out, the game wasn't "turning into a blowout" until it was 41-3 in the 3rd quarter, Alabama is still the #2 team and Mike Gundy said so last week
When you have the major college football media so blatantly pushing for a rematch, that's going to sway a lot of voters. ESPN knows that Alabama gets higher TV ratings than Oklahoma State. CBS's SEC TV packages benefits from the perception that the SEC is by far the best conference.
ESPN knew somebody had to make the case for Okie State so they had Lou Holtz (who they know people think is a doofus) give the weakest possible argument for them, while also saying he thinks Alabama is better.
The reporting and analysis has been completely agenda-driven. It shouldn't surprise anybody, but ESPN has no interest in a true national championship game. They want a made for TV spectacle.
OSU must jump from #5 in the Harris Poll, to 5 votes ahead of Alabama to make it.
Anything short of that, and it's rematch city.
OSU is .0005 and change behind Alabama, with new Coaches poll, and with the 4-2 split by computers in favor of the Cowboys.
Mathematically, it will take a 5 vote lead in the Harris Poll to erase the remaining gap.
Anything short of that, and it's rematch city.
OSU is .0005 and change behind Alabama, with new Coaches poll, and with the 4-2 split by computers in favor of the Cowboys.
Mathematically, it will take a 5 vote lead in the Harris Poll to erase the remaining gap.
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