It was a foul and maybe even an F1 because he's in the air when Grill moves underneath him but they missed it in real time and didn't bother to go to the monitor which surprised me. It wouldn't have had any impact on who won the game but you just absolutely hate seeing guys land like that and I'm sure he's real sore today.
Anyone notice Caleb Grill's back?
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Yeah, I don't think this team is going to back down from anyone out there. We definitely are "that team" that no one wants to play against.
No one (that I've seen) really talking about it but Cunningham took a somewhat cheap shot with a forearm shiver into Grill after a foul. 1:28:00 mark of the ESPN+ feed.
Not a huge deal but if we're being nit picky about things, that was unnecessary. Overall, that was one of the most physical basketball games I've ever seen but I don't think there was anything "dirty" going on either way.
Not a huge deal but if we're being nit picky about things, that was unnecessary. Overall, that was one of the most physical basketball games I've ever seen but I don't think there was anything "dirty" going on either way.
Cunningham is an absolute shitweasel. Dude went to the Brad Davison basketball academy
I was curious earlier this afternoon and just rewatched the period in the second half when I recalled it got most chippy in person, and I'll be damned, Cunningham was the culprit in almost every cheap shot and (un-whistled) flagrant 1 that went down:
- trampling Lipsey after a made basket
- a forearm to Grill's chin as a whistle was blown
- a hip check at Holmes (or Kalscheur?) as the ref turned and looked the other way
- trampling Kalscheur after they both missed a rebound attempt going the other way
- going all Deandre eye poke on a closeout on Kalscheur
1:58:50 mark is where Caleb seems to strain his back a little stretching out for a rebound on a free throw miss
It was almost as rough as most of the games that I’ve watched when ISU has played at West Virginia!!!
Starting to think this is affecting him today.
Grill hardly played today and only took one shot. Someone mentioned it looked like he had a back brace in. IMO his absence today was the difference between winning and losing.
His defense was badly missed in the 2nd half. Hope he can go Tuesday.
TJ just said on the radio "his back is really tight."
Well that stinks. I hope he's alright. As much as it might suck he might need to sit for a few games. I'd rather he was healthy and ready to play in March than January.
We can't afford to lose any guards. We basically only play 4, and we're down the 3 without Grill. His injury cost us today.
We really missed Grill in today’s games. Gives us a perspective on how valuable he is to the team.
Missing Jaz is hurting too. They needed some help down low today, on both sides of the court.
We needed somebody to step up and shoot well today. Could it have been Grill? Sure. But could have been any of the other guys as well. End of the day, we either win or at least make it to OT if Osun hits 2 vital free throws at the end. And you don't win many games in this conference with just 2 made 3's.
Not trying to downplay Grill, just stating that this was a winnable game that they let slip away.
Dont disagree but there is a good reason we "let it slip away".. We lost Grill and we went from being able to spread the floor to not and Okie st adjusted by clogging middle and daring us to shoot 3's outside of Gabe.
We had no threat outside Gabe in 2nd half bc Grill was out.
Reason our offense has been effective inside/out is bc we have both inside and out..
We don't have that with no Grill.
strained backs are a tough deal. I would rather he get healed up all rather than try and make a go of it every night only to aggravate it in doing so. We are woefully short on guards. Lost out on Green, Williams out, and now Grill. We can't have Kalscheur go 40 min every night, we saw what happens, he didn't have his shooting legs in the second half. Maybe it's time to give E. King a couple of minutes each half to help keep our other guys fresh enough to compete at a high level down the stretch
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Add in not enough Lipsey, Holmes usage was way too high I’d imagine for the whole game.
Right. We are one guard short without Williams. Not that he was probably going to be much of a shooting threat, but you remove even one more guard from the equation and it gets dicey pretty quick, putting a lot of pressure on the remaining guards.