Anyone more worried about the Offense than the Defense?

tell me you are NOT doing no-huddle. that scares me a little, obviously our defensive depth isnt big 12 level. Isu staying in spread with normal 25sec play clock calls helps NDSU.

how's your wr's looking?? that will be a key battle vs our #1 pass def.
Can't. Why did you think we kept saying we were going to score a lot of points on you?
 
tell me you are NOT doing no-huddle. that scares me a little, obviously our defensive depth isnt big 12 level. Isu staying in spread with normal 25sec play clock calls helps NDSU.

how's your wr's looking?? that will be a key battle vs our #1 pass def.

Herman's O is no huddle, why would he change it. There is talent and speed at the WR sport, it just has be used correctly.
 
Maybe it is just me, but I'm just not convinced that we won't struggle on offense this year. From what I've seen, I haven't been overly impressed so far in execution. Additionally, there have been tons of turnovers (mostly interceptions). I remember Arnaud threw 3 or 4 picks in the Spring game (Tiller also had 1 or 2) and I know there were plenty of picks thrown in practice on Thurs/Fri, as well as in the scrimmage yesterday.

Perhaps it is the new system, but I haven't seen anything resembling fluidity and comfort on the Offensive side of the ball YET. I do believe we have the talent there and maybe it is more of the new system and reps to get it clicking, but I am somewhat concerned at this point. The idea we are going to put up 30-40pts per game in the B12 seems like a stretch right now.

On the other hand, I really think the D is going to surprise so long as the O doesn't go 3 and out too often.

Have to see what the games actually produce I guess as it is hard to tell from practices/scrimmages I suppose.

It's funny what a dysfunctional bunch we are. We go from the highs to the lows faster than any group I've been around. Talk of 6/7 wins and a bowl this year is pretty mainstream. Talks of hushed practice events so we can 'shock' Iowa with our no-huddle offense is on this board more than once. Now, today I read that our Defense, of all things, will be stronger than our Offense, etc.,etc, etc.

We have a new head coach. We have two new coordinators. We have different systems to learn. We don't have a short-term history of winning football.

When Chizik first came in, the feeling was the same. Watch out, here we come......

Does anyone think that a no-huddle offense might be harder on US than the defense we are facing.....at least for a while?

Wow.
 
At this stage of the process, I am sure we are discovering what we do well and not so well. We are probably stretching everyone a bit to find limits, etc. Later when we focus more on the things we tend to do well, and get into 'football shape', there should be fewer mistakes.
 
Depends what you mean by worried.

Do I think the offense could be really not so hot this year? Of course, check the last 3 years. Until we have an offense that puts up huge numbers on the scoreboard and not just in the yardage column. We need someone to come close to being Todd Blythe good for this offense to be good this year, until we can bring in a load of more competent WRs.

I dont know where you got 30-40 points per game in the Big 12. That would put us up there with there with some of the best offenses in the conf.

With that said, I really dont think the D will be better than the O. Too thin and slow in the front 7. No experience at safety.

I really dont want to come across as being overly negative because this team will be the best ISU team since 2005 IMO. There are just a lot of young guys that will need to develop.

I guess there isn't much you dont need to worry about on a team predicted to have 3-4 wins

I think that's a real good write-up.
 
I am concerned...but we have to remember we have CPR and Burnham who are both experienced D coaches so they may have a quicker impact on that side of the ball.
Especially considering our O isn't simple to learn in a short amount of time.
Hopefully we can eliminate the TOs on offense until we get our rhythm down. Once the offense starts to click it should be exciting to watch.
Also, go back and look at Rice's game-by-game stats from Herman's first year there. There was a VAST improvement from game one to game 12. We should be getting into a flow by BigXII play.

I am very pleased to hear the D is looking better!!!
 
tell me you are NOT doing no-huddle. that scares me a little, obviously our defensive depth isnt big 12 level. Isu staying in spread with normal 25sec play clock calls helps NDSU.

No-huddle is the perfect offense, and soon everyone will be doing it. By having your offense up to the line of scrimmage right away, you prevent the defense from being able to substitute. You can snap it right away, but you can also wait until the end of the play clock to snap it which is what we will be doing if we're having troubles moving the chains. So no-huddle doesn't automatically mean that we'll go three-and-out in 30 seconds.
 
Well, Ill try to make this brief because I know some people over analyze my posts:2 reasons why you should not "worry" about the offense per say:1. After speaking to 2 of the offensive players after the scrimmage, they both said the same thing and only confirmed what I already assumed; its the preseason, new "spread" offense, new coaching staff, new players, its an inter-squad scrimmage. What does all this mean? Well 1 as an offensive coach there are a couple things you are looking to see in your 1st scrimmage. One of the most important things is if your players are understanding the concepts of the plays, starting with the 5 big uglies (O-line) and their blocking schemes. Then the RB's and WR's footwork, technique and consistency. Finally your QB, acknowledging his reads and making good decisions. The plays may not work perfectly on the field during the scrimmage but after watching the films we know what to correct. The best part about the film time is that the film doesnt lie, so the players are held accountable for mistakes and have the opportunity to make adjustments. Secondly, the "spread offense" is one of, if not, the hardest offenses to install. Its all about progression. You have to get your line to think quicker, they are taking different steps to block, you have to get your receivers to become more fluid, there are so many guys out in routes at one time, they have to understand their purpose on each play...basically it takes time. Not to mention the tasks of developing a concrete depth chart with solid competition. Defense will always look better because the main task of the defense is to stop the offense by any means necessary, not a lot of formatting involved.2. We are playing against ourselves! By now the secondary has familiarized themselves with our calls and even our tendecies. Not to discredit our defensive staff and say that they were only successful by default, but we will be able to measure our offense when we face a fresh defense.Ladies and gentlemen we have weapons! Its one thing to go into a spread without having all the pieces in place, but thats not the case here. Imagine this, we are going to war and the general stands you in front of a table full of different weapons from knives to machine guns to grenades and bazookas...now you might not know how to use them all right away, but once you figure them all out, you'll be deadly! And YES I do believe that Rhoads has picked a good general to utilize these weapons! Its Showtime!
 
Well, Ill try to make this brief because I know some people over analyze my posts:2 reasons why you should not "worry" about the offense per say:1. After speaking to 2 of the offensive players after the scrimmage, they both said the same thing and only confirmed what I already assumed; its the preseason, new "spread" offense, new coaching staff, new players, its an inter-squad scrimmage. What does all this mean? Well 1 as an offensive coach there are a couple things you are looking to see in your 1st scrimmage. One of the most important things is if your players are understanding the concepts of the plays, starting with the 5 big uglies (O-line) and their blocking schemes. Then the RB's and WR's footwork, technique and consistency. Finally your QB, acknowledging his reads and making good decisions. The plays may not work perfectly on the field during the scrimmage but after watching the films we know what to correct. The best part about the film time is that the film doesnt lie, so the players are held accountable for mistakes and have the opportunity to make adjustments. Secondly, the "spread offense" is one of, if not, the hardest offenses to install. Its all about progression. You have to get your line to think quicker, they are taking different steps to block, you have to get your receivers to become more fluid, there are so many guys out in routes at one time, they have to understand their purpose on each play...basically it takes time. Not to mention the tasks of developing a concrete depth chart with solid competition. Defense will always look better because the main task of the defense is to stop the offense by any means necessary, not a lot of formatting involved.2. We are playing against ourselves! By now the secondary has familiarized themselves with our calls and even our tendecies. Not to discredit our defensive staff and say that they were only successful by default, but we will be able to measure our offense when we face a fresh defense.Ladies and gentlemen we have weapons! Its one thing to go into a spread without having all the pieces in place, but thats not the case here. Imagine this, we are going to war and the general stands you in front of a table full of different weapons from knives to machine guns to grenades and bazookas...now you might not know how to use them all right away, but once you figure them all out, you'll be deadly! And YES I do believe that Rhoads has picked a good general to utilize these weapons! Its Showtime!

Great post. Good insight.
 
Yes, you have every right to be concerned, the coaches are also.

But I agree with “cyclonestateâ€￾ the running game will be better than it has been in years. Until Austen grows into the role there will be a lot of short, safe passes (essentially long handoffs) and its going to be fun watching A-Rob have a 1,000 + yard year.

Get Pumped!
 
Well, Ill try to make this brief because I know some people over analyze my posts:2 reasons why you should not "worry" about the offense per say:1. After speaking to 2 of the offensive players after the scrimmage, they both said the same thing and only confirmed what I already assumed; its the preseason, new "spread" offense, new coaching staff, new players, its an inter-squad scrimmage. What does all this mean? Well 1 as an offensive coach there are a couple things you are looking to see in your 1st scrimmage. One of the most important things is if your players are understanding the concepts of the plays, starting with the 5 big uglies (O-line) and their blocking schemes. Then the RB's and WR's footwork, technique and consistency. Finally your QB, acknowledging his reads and making good decisions. The plays may not work perfectly on the field during the scrimmage but after watching the films we know what to correct. The best part about the film time is that the film doesnt lie, so the players are held accountable for mistakes and have the opportunity to make adjustments. Secondly, the "spread offense" is one of, if not, the hardest offenses to install. Its all about progression. You have to get your line to think quicker, they are taking different steps to block, you have to get your receivers to become more fluid, there are so many guys out in routes at one time, they have to understand their purpose on each play...basically it takes time. Not to mention the tasks of developing a concrete depth chart with solid competition. Defense will always look better because the main task of the defense is to stop the offense by any means necessary, not a lot of formatting involved.2. We are playing against ourselves! By now the secondary has familiarized themselves with our calls and even our tendecies. Not to discredit our defensive staff and say that they were only successful by default, but we will be able to measure our offense when we face a fresh defense.Ladies and gentlemen we have weapons! Its one thing to go into a spread without having all the pieces in place, but thats not the case here. Imagine this, we are going to war and the general stands you in front of a table full of different weapons from knives to machine guns to grenades and bazookas...now you might not know how to use them all right away, but once you figure them all out, you'll be deadly! And YES I do believe that Rhoads has picked a good general to utilize these weapons! Its Showtime!
+4,000,000,000
 
If your worried before sept. 4th, the day after the first game, ur absolutely insane. Take your meds and calm down.:wink:
 
I think the defense SHOULD be ahead of the offense right now. If not, I'd be worried.

I think this is pretty spot on. These offensive players have to get their timing down in a new offensive system. That takes reps. Hopefully, it doesn't take until the season is past redemption for them to finally get the hang of it.
 
I am always concerned about TOs because they can change a game completely. Herman seem particularly unhappy after the scrimmage, so I am assuming that there must have been an unusually large number of mistakes. It will be interesting the see what changes are made on the depth chart after the scrimmage.

It does sound like the defense is tackling much better now, so hopefully that will keep some point off the board for the other teams.
 
I think this is pretty spot on. These offensive players have to get their timing down in a new offensive system. That takes reps. Hopefully, it doesn't take until the season is past redemption for them to finally get the hang of it.
One good thing I've read is that there are more offensive reps/day because of the no-huddle sequence. Maybe that will give us a steeper learning curve.
 

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