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Oh well! Can't say that I've received a warm welcome. You may not even remember James H. Hilton but I'm proud. The Big 12 Conference acknowledges that officiating errors were made and they were made both ways or for and against both teams. However, the attitude that appears to be growing in your fanbase certainly is not good. Some say this is a reflection of the coach or administration. I sincerely hope not.

I'm sure James A Hilton, would have been really proud of you being a Kansas fan
 
Holy ****! This is weird guys... Phog Allen Field House is named after one of MY Ancestors. I have family that lives in Kansas. Obviously I only want the Earth to open up and swallow that entire fan base.

And before any of you call me a liar... I put it on the internet so its true.



:biglaugh::biglaugh: Good one! If that guy is related to James Hilton, what in the heck is he doing being a kansas fan? I think James Hilton would turn over in his grave if he knew that! Boo!
 
Just because you can do it doesn't make it the right thing to do. Raising your hand for a foul that was committed 4 feet from where you were standing on the floor -- that's dishonest. If that's ok and is good basketball then no wonder our society is all screwed up.
This ain't the YMCA where you are supposed to call your own fouls. Sports are competitive. If you can get away with it, it's going to happen or at least you are gonna try.
 
i agree with this. Why not let TJ go ape on these guys. Self decided to get a T at the tip off. Obviously that was planned as he knew Fred wouldn't match his relentless assault on the refs and in the end it worked for him. Not blaming Fred but Self was in the zebra heads all night and was given the game for his efforts. Crazy fan rebellions are another possibility. No way these refs will do this crap again in Hilton when you have a fan base that is ready to take matters in their own hands.
Fans stayed to boo sports center interviews. Self will be booed every time he comes to Hilton. Lets hope Fred can match the talent as this is going to be an epic battle for years to come after what happened this year.

Lets not lose sight of who the DB is here. But why on earth would you hope that Otz or anyone would go ape enough to get a T when the game was still so close in spite of getting obviously screwed? That'd be pretty dumb and I'm glad our coaches are not as dumb as Self.
 
This. Anyone that has watched any amount of basketball has seen this numerous times.

This ain't the YMCA where you are supposed to call your own fouls. Sports are competitive. If you can get away with it, it's going to happen or at least you are gonna try.
You will make a perfect fit on Wall Street or working with some personal injury law firm. They need ya
 
:biglaugh::biglaugh: Good one! If that guy is related to James Hilton, what in the heck is he doing being a kansas fan? I think James Hilton would turn over in his grave if he knew that! Boo!

Um, I am related to Napolean going way back but I still hate France.
 
Lets not lose sight of who the DB is here. But why on earth would you hope that Otz or anyone would go ape enough to get a T when the game was still so close in spite of getting obviously screwed? That'd be pretty dumb and I'm glad our coaches are not as dumb as Self.
Not talking about the end of the game and I get that Fred is. A good guy and Self is a doosh, just agreeing that working the refs gives successful coaches an unfair advantage. LE was pretty good at it as was Floyd, since its not Fred's style, maybe TJ could help keep them fair and balanced.
 
Oh well! Can't say that I've received a warm welcome. You may not even remember James H. Hilton but I'm proud. The Big 12 Conference acknowledges that officiating errors were made and they were made both ways or for and against both teams. However, the attitude that appears to be growing in your fanbase certainly is not good. Some say this is a reflection of the coach or administration. I sincerely hope not.

Maybe we're just sick and tired of getting ****ed and being known as little ol' Iowa State. That would have been a great win for our team and university and it was all taken away because of O'Neil and Smith. It also screws up the whole conference and rankings with the recent upsets.

Also, I'm sick and tired of hearing how our fan base is so classless and we have an attitude. It was a select handful that did some asinine things on Monday, not all of us. Imagine if that went down in the Phog?? Self would have gone bonkers along with the rest of your ****** fan base. I hope we face you guys again in Kansas City and beat the hell out of you guys.
 
Maybe we're just sick and tired of getting ****ed and being known as little ol' Iowa State. That would have been a great win for our team and university and it was all taken away because of O'Neil and Smith. It also screws up the whole conference and rankings with the recent upsets.

Also, I'm sick and tired of hearing how our fan base is so classless and we have an attitude. It was a select handful that did some asinine things on Monday, not all of us. Imagine if that went down in the Phog?? Self would have gone bonkers along with the rest of your ****** fan base. I hope we face you guys again in Kansas City and beat the hell out of you guys.

If ISU has a classless fanbase, there is no BCS level fanbase in this country with class.
 
WWJD?

What would Johnny do? Blow a gasket, that's what. His postgame would have been epic.

But I still respect Fred, he knows we got screwed, and that nothing anyone says or does will change it. Plus the team can't afford to keep thinking about KU when they desperately need a road win at OU. Get 'er done.
 
I'm sure James A Hilton, would have been really proud of you being a Kansas fan

My paternal family has lived in Lawrence for five generations. I grew up near Allen Fieldhouse and have known the Kansas coaches on a personal level. I am related to Hilton through my maternal family from North Carolina. He was an awesome individual, and I'm sure he is very proud!
 
Its amazing how butthurt KU fans are that everyone outside their bubble isnt coming down on their side about this, after years and years of complete adoration by the media and the officials. Theyre doing everything, from trolling our board, to repeating the same crap all over reddit, to blowing up the idiotic tweets of a couple morons in our fanbase just to try to deflect from the fact that they should not have won monday.
I liken KU fan to the scene in Rocky III where Rocky thinks he's the champ because he beat all the contenders but Mick blows up his world and tells him he was paying those guys to take a dive because he knew Rock couldn't beat them.

KU fan thought that all of their basketball success is due to them being awesome but they are realizing what the rest of the college bball fans know is that they get the benefit of refs on their side intentional or not. This could be said of all the so called blue bloods.
 
You will make a perfect fit on Wall Street or working with some personal injury law firm. They need ya
Um ok. I think you are confusing dishonesty with accepted practice, the dishonesty in this game was the refs continually letting it happen. Did they mean to be dishonest or are they just preconditioned to thinking that blue cant do nothing wrong.
 
My paternal family has lived in Lawrence for five generations. I grew up near Allen Fieldhouse and have known the Kansas coaches on a personal level. I am related to Hilton through my maternal family from North Carolina. He was an awesome individual, and I'm sure he is very proud!

On behalf of your ancestor, and cyclone fans everywhere, GFY and EABAD
 
My paternal family has lived in Lawrence for five generations. I grew up near Allen Fieldhouse and have known the Kansas coaches on a personal level. I am related to Hilton through my maternal family from North Carolina. He was an awesome individual, and I'm sure he is very proud!

if you thought you would come on here and get a response other than what you got, then uh... you dumb.
 
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