And so it begins... NIL

[coolerifyoudid]

I realize they are getting paid to handle it, but the pressure some of these coaches are facing just rose a few notches.

I know boosters already interfere with decisions in Texas. I can only imagine the fun once a booster, who has their name and money tied directly and publicly with a player, watch their player ride the bench in favor of another booster's player. This could be like youth sports' parents all over again.

 

[Mr Janny]

you realize coaches don't want 4 year contracts for players either right? Coaches want the players who didn't work out to have the ability to transfer out so they'll stop counting against their scholarship count (without them looking like asshats for pulling a schollie). Players want the ability to transfer if things aren't working out. Neither side wants 4 year contracts. Even people like you don't really want 4 year contracts, you just want certain players to not be able to go anywhere.

This. I'm sure some players would be willing to sign four year commitments, but they wouldn't be the type of players that you'd want to sign up for 4 years. And the ones you would want, would never sign it, because they don't have to. Some people are having trouble coming to grips with the advent of player choice. Players will move. They'll sign with the highest bidder. They'll make smart choices and dumb ones. Sometimes it will benefit Iowa State. Sometimes it won't. But the players can make those choices now, where they were restricted before. And that's ultimately the way it should be.

 

[SCNCY]

One thing I am interested to see if schools will pay their athletes for the jersey's they sell with an athletes name on it? Right now, I assume when the LOI is signed, the LOI states that the school keeps the money. But I wonder of the higher rated athletes coming out of high school will try and negotiate that?

 

[OldCurmudgeon]

you realize coaches don't want 4 year contracts for players either right? Coaches want the players who didn't work out to have the ability to transfer out so they'll stop counting against their scholarship count (without them looking like asshats for pulling a schollie). Players want the ability to transfer if things aren't working out. Neither side wants 4 year contracts. Even people like you don't really want 4 year contracts, you just want certain players to not be able to go anywhere.

I should have added a Jimlad at the end of that statement. Didn't see how until just now.

 

[dualthreat]

I’m not saying the new NIL rules will be all bad
Im not saying the new NIL rules will be all good
But anyone who says “oh come on this isn’t going to change things that much” is a ******* moron

 

[cycloneG]

One thing I am interested to see if schools will pay their athletes for the jersey's they sell with an athletes name on it? Right now, I assume when the LOI is signed, the LOI states that the school keeps the money. But I wonder of the higher rated athletes coming out of high school will try and negotiate that?

Isn't that against NCAA rules? Schools are not allowed to sell jerseys with a player's name.

 

[Clark]

One thing I am interested to see if schools will pay their athletes for the jersey's they sell with an athletes name on it? Right now, I assume when the LOI is signed, the LOI states that the school keeps the money. But I wonder of the higher rated athletes coming out of high school will try and negotiate that?

My assumption is that will be updated as early as this signing period. It will be interesting to see the changes that are made to the standard LOI.

 

[coolerifyoudid]

One thing I am interested to see if schools will pay their athletes for the jersey's they sell with an athletes name on it? Right now, I assume when the LOI is signed, the LOI states that the school keeps the money. But I wonder of the higher rated athletes coming out of high school will try and negotiate that?

Jersey sales were what immediately came to mind with me when this was announced. I'd love to see named jerseys be available under the condition that neither side should be able to profit off a named jersey unless both parties receive a cut.

I would think youth jerseys in particular would be a profitable market.

 

[Larzz]

I'm concerned that student athletes will get into trouble with the IRS and cause all kinds of lifelong issues. Hopefully these folks brokering big time deals will help them out with taxes and such.

 

[RealisticCy]

Isn't that against NCAA rules? Schools are not allowed to sell jerseys with a player's name.

Not sure if against the rules, but it was a bad look for the university in the past.....with no name, at lesat they could get away with saying "we are selling the school jersey, the number is just a number with no reference to a certain player"....

Would probably be good for both parties to agree to something......Iowa State restricts the use of its name, images (logo), and likeness much the same that these players now can. If a player wants to include anything anything school related on their own jersey sales, they would need permission.

 

[Clark]

Not sure if against the rules, but it was a bad look for the university in the past.....with no name, at lesat they could get away with saying "we are selling the school jersey, the number is just a number with no reference to a certain player"....

Would probably be good for both parties to agree to something......Iowa State restricts the use of its name, images (logo), and likeness much the same that these players now can. If a player wants to include anything anything school related on their own jersey sales, they would need permission.

maybe they should do what the schools used to, only reverse, Just have Purdy sell Jerseys with his name and number on it in school colors just without the logo or name of ISU.

 

[RealisticCy]

maybe they should do what the schools used to, only reverse, Just have Purdy sell Jerseys with his name and number on it in school colors just without the logo or name of ISU.

Purdy's face giving two giant thumbs up on the front, name and number on the back......tell me those wouldn't sell this year.

 

[Cyhig]

I understand and endorse students who wish to make money by using their name, image, likeness. It makes sense these kids should be able to market themselves.

My biggest concern is what type of distraction this will cause in the product of the game. Are kids going to be focused more on individualism and not the team? Will these athletes be distracted from their marketing of themselves and devote less time to the gym/prep work ahead of a game? During the season, these athletes are also attending classes/studying. They already didn't have much free time. Now they'll have to find time to use their name to make some $.

CMC is great at ensuring the players understand it's a team effort, and the culture change was largely driven by the players. I hope they continue this focus and not get distracted by everything happening around them. Easier said than done, though

 

[DeereClone]

I'm concerned that student athletes will get into trouble with the IRS and cause all kinds of lifelong issues. Hopefully these folks brokering big time deals will help them out with taxes and such.

If it's over $600 the company hiring them will send a 1099, which should at least trigger some thought of filing taxes I would think.

 

[Mr Janny]

I’m not saying the new NIL rules will be all bad
Im not saying the new NIL rules will be all good
But anyone who says “oh come on this isn’t going to change things that much” is a ******* moron

I don't think anyone is saying that.

 

[cyclones500]

Not sure if against the rules, but it was a bad look for the university in the past.....with no name, at lesat they could get away with saying "we are selling the school jersey, the number is just a number with no reference to a certain player"....

Would probably be good for both parties to agree to something......Iowa State restricts the use of its name, images (logo), and likeness much the same that these players now can. If a player wants to include anything anything school related on their own jersey sales, they would need permission.

I had assumed a player could get a cut from sales of a jersey w/ name on it, but it appears not, according to “Explainer” article from AP, excerpt below. (my bolding)

Full article here:

EXPLAINER: The NCAA and the impact of NIL compensation

Beginning Thursday, hundreds of thousands of college athletes will be able to earn a form of compensation that has been barred for decades by regulations put in place by the NCAA, conferences, schools or a combination of all of them.

apnews.com

Q: What is a school’s role?
A: Schools won’t be paying their athletes anything -- it will be third parties -- but they do have oversight of their athletes’ NIL deals. Schools also could object to deals that conflict with existing agreements, i.e., an athlete endorsing a different brand of apparel than the one paying the school to wear its brand. In most cases, athletes won’t be allowed to display school marks or logos while making money off their own celebrity. Schools also cannot broker deals for their athletes, but many have reached agreements with brand facilitators to help educate their athletes. As for boosters, they cannot use NIL deals as recruiting inducements or to compensate an athlete based directly on performance.

--> Basically, as I interpret it: Just as a school may not profit from NIL, athletes cannot use the school brand to profit. (Note it says “in most cases.”)

 

[DeereClone]

I understand and endorse students who wish to make money by using their name, image, likeness. It makes sense these kids should be able to market themselves.

My biggest concern is what type of distraction this will cause in the product of the game. Are kids going to be focused more on individualism and not the team? Will these athletes be distracted from their marketing of themselves and devote less time to the gym/prep work ahead of a game? During the season, these athletes are also attending classes/studying. They already didn't have much free time. Now they'll have to find time to use their name to make some $.

CMC is great at ensuring the players understand it's a team effort, and the culture change was largely driven by the players. I hope they continue this focus and not get distracted by everything happening around them. Easier said than done, though

This won't be an issue. NIL won't be them signing autographs all day on a weekend at the local bowling alley for little kids. NIL will be wealthy donors using their corporations to buy the players they want for their team. The recruit/player will send out a few tweets on behalf of the company and that will be about it.

 

[Hoggins]

This thread is nothing more than people who are afraid of change.

 

[coolerifyoudid]

I’m not saying the new NIL rules will be all bad
Im not saying the new NIL rules will be all good
But anyone who says “oh come on this isn’t going to change things that much” is a ******* moron

I think most everyone knows the immediate change will be pretty significant, but once everyone gets a few years to acclimate, I imagine that most will make the necessary adjustments.

I was honestly torn on the whole thing, but now that it's here, I've become more comfortable with it. My initial thoughts weren't positive, but once I realized this has the possibility of helping all athletes to some degree and not just the 'elite' ones, I've come around.

 

[isucy86]

This won't be an issue. NIL won't be them signing autographs all day on a weekend at the local bowling alley for little kids. NIL will be wealthy donors using their corporations to buy the players they want for their team. The recruit/player will send out a few tweets on behalf of the company and that will be about it.

When money is involved- jealousy and envy are soon to follow. Who has the nicest car, clothes, apartment, etc. After all these are 18-22 year old kids suddenly with $ to spend.

Then what happens when some recruit signs a 6 figure NIL deal and they are a bust. Or maybe they are a starter, but making bigger coin than the team's star players.