That’a kind of my point though. If just the affluent fans can attend these big events regularly they are locking out the majority of their fans.
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That’a kind of my point though. If just the affluent fans can attend these big events regularly they are locking out the majority of their fans.
I was talking about racing in general. All the way down from the top to the Stuart Speedway.
That’s not what you said. You said a “majority of the people that go to racing are the poors”. I’m saying that’s NOT the case. I’m sure you are just trying to make yourself feel better…
Also there was a lot within your post that wasn’t accurate. You can buy tickets for NASCAR at Kansas for $49 (that’s cheap) and you can bring in your own cooler with beer and food. It’s affordable.
I've always thought NASCAR should do Knoxville if it wants an Iowa race.
Do a real dirt short track (not Bristol coated in dirt) to get back to the series' deepest roots.
Knoxville seats 21,000, which would be packed and look great on TV for such a race.
I'd rather watch that than yet another intermediate trioval, even if Newton is one of the better ones.
I disagree with the "poors" statement.
In my experience of being involved in racing since I was a little kid is that the audience is a wide range of people. I would say that it is predominately middle class blue collar types but there are quite a few white collar and upper class people involved. Yes there are some not well off people that attend that would probably be better off spending their money on their kids and such but it's not the number of people that you think.
I also think the attire people wear to the races tend to lead people to think it's just a bunch of "poors". People no matter how well off aren't getting dressed up to go to the races. I know multimillionaires who are at the races all the time but if you saw them you might think based on what they are wearing they weren't well off. Wearing jeans and a racing t-shirt you bought from your favorite racer doesn't exactly scream I'm a successful Attorney, Accountant, Engineer, Doctor, business owner, etc. When I am at the races (racing or just watching) I am most likely wearing camo shorts and one of my many racing shirts, no way you'd see me and be like "he must be a CPA".
And to say they can go to a local track and watch for free or cheap is not really accurate. Most local tracks are $10 - $15 admission for adults and $20 - $30 for a pit pass. When a special comes to the local track the admission is $25 - $35 for adults. And that's before you even get to the over priced food.
NASCAR did the Trucks at Knoxville a few weeks ago and it was a train wreck. They should have just went to the Iowa Speedway.
Ugh, no. What did you like about the Bristol race other than the fact that it was a cool idea on paper? It seemed like the big takeaway from that race was that they shouldn't do it again.
P.S. The most NASCAR I want to see at Knoxville is Kyle Larson getting bullied! He comes in and just runs over people because he can afford to do so. I would love to see a good old boy do the same to him. So far, it seems that he has a "green shirt" on so people let him do what he wants without paying the price.
Growing up in Boone and watching lots of friends and family race on that track...
Short track dirt racing is kind of always a train wreck. That's half the fun.
Plenty of intermediate tracks and superspeedways for clean racing the rest of the year.
Let the teams bring an old beater of a car.
I disliked the Bristol dirt race because I like Bristol as it was.
It's the only high-banked short track on the schedule. It works without a gimmick.
There is a reason the reworked Fontana track is going to be close copy of it.
Would it be borderline a demolition derby? Yep, again, half the fun.
I think one reason was the town was still reeling from losing Maytag and they were swinging for the fences.
By train wreck I didn't mean the on track wrecks. I meant the common sense dirt track stylings that NASCAR ignored.
1. Get rid of the windshields. By having the windshields Knoxville had to prepare the track to be dryer than normal and it caused the crappy rubbered up one lane racing surface. Get rid of the windshields and the track can get watered more which will make the track faster, more side by side racing and a racing surface that lasts longer.
2. The mandatory pit stoppage. We don't have these in dirt, if you get a flat or have an issue you go to the hot pit and then restart at the rear of the field.
3. We don't count yellow flag laps in dirt track racing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I definitely agree with you there. If you are going to do it, then lean into it. Most of the Cup drivers have significant dirt and/or open wheel experience coming up. They'll be able to handle it fine.
This continues to baffle me, starting at Bristol earlier this year. Almost as if they don't think the drivers are capable of managing to use tearoffs. That and when somebody thought that putting a little deflector plate in front of the drivers side of the windshield was going to do the trick.
No because rule 1 would have eliminated the rubbered up 1 lane track.
The first stage track conditions of that race is how the last stage would have been if they didn't have windshields and knoxville could have properly prepared that track. They could have had a nice cushion around the top and a nice moisture strip around the bottom providing side by side multiple groove racing. Instead they had to go light on the water and the track wore out and everyone had to fight to the bottom.
my washer broke and i need a new one!
welp zz top is coming to town though so nvm on the washer.
Well one of them just died, so can't see ZZ Top again. Looks like the correct decision was made.
Thats the biggest fail in all of this. NASCAR thinking they know dirt, but the crews that have been doing dirt for years, dont.