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You spend some time in the oil patch up there? Alberta is my primary stomping grounds (I'm in natural gas business).
I’ve actually heard a lot of employers are just letting their employees rack in the extra 600 a week while just working part time instead of going through PPP because the extra federal benefits are paying more or just right about the same as they were making.
1. I hope is something that people are in the process of learning and practicing right now and going forward.
2: as long as the employer did all they could, and are honest about why, it's hard to be upset at them specifically. I got let go from a part-time gig 3 years ago and while it was weird, they were upfront with me and went down the line as to why it was happening. No ill will at all. I've seen the opposite done and have left jobs because of it.
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I am furloughed, just got extended another 90 days. Where is the guy who was taunting me a couple months ago on here because I said I temporarily lost my job. Classy guy that Simply1.
One situation was my entire team being let go due to outsourcing. I was the manager. My staff received severance but only if they worked a short term contract, from 2-6 months depending on the person. All but one quit to take new jobs before the contract was up. So they didn't receive severance, but they were never unemployed.
My offer was to take over management of the development team in India (meaning I had to work for the company out of India), or walk with nothing. Some paperwork made it to me that I wasn't supposed to receive - four people of 800 were retained. The paperwork basically said "these small business units are screwed if these four leave". So I quit a few months after the last contract was up for my old staff.
Everyone flipped out - the business unit leaders, the old managers from the company we contracted for, and the new management. I knew I had a little power, but I was a peon. I didn't realize how much until I quit.
Got a monster bonus offer, worked the six months I needed to earn it, then quit again. My VP flipped out again. Said "we just gave you all of this money and you bail?" I replied, "if you didn't see this coming, you've got some things to work on." That was our last conversation.
My offer was to take over management of the development team in India (meaning I had to work for the company out of India), or walk with nothing. Some paperwork made it to me that I wasn't supposed to receive - four people of 800 were retained. The paperwork basically said "these small business units are screwed if these four leave". So I quit a few months after the last contract was up for my old staff.
Everyone flipped out - the business unit leaders, the old managers from the company we contracted for, and the new management. I knew I had a little power, but I was a peon. I didn't realize how much until I quit.
Got a monster bonus offer, worked the six months I needed to earn it, then quit again. My VP flipped out again. Said "we just gave you all of this money and you bail?" I replied, "if you didn't see this coming, you've got some things to work on." That was our last conversation.
Sure did! My firing example was from a man camp I spent most of 2011 in BFE Ontario. But I did spend the summer of 2012 in the oil sands. My employer at the time built the Kearl expansions. I stayed at Wapasu, among many of the other camps up there.
Yes, back in 2017 after the housing downturn when the big banks let a bunch of staff go.
I had just left a nice (but not super high paying) FTE position and jumped in to the contracting world. Had about 12 months of hourly pay as a contractor going and was loving the large paychecks.
Early December all the FTE's were called in to a meeting while me and all the other contractors were left out. The FTE's walked out of that meeting and none would even look at us. A few hours later all contractors called in...told we're done and to pack up our stuff. Couldn't find jack for work in DSM at that point. The bank laid off so many it just flooded the market.
I had just left a nice (but not super high paying) FTE position and jumped in to the contracting world. Had about 12 months of hourly pay as a contractor going and was loving the large paychecks.
Early December all the FTE's were called in to a meeting while me and all the other contractors were left out. The FTE's walked out of that meeting and none would even look at us. A few hours later all contractors called in...told we're done and to pack up our stuff. Couldn't find jack for work in DSM at that point. The bank laid off so many it just flooded the market.
We have not let anyone go in part because of PPP funding. It runs out, well, about now. Stay tuned.
Yes, in 2002, 2013 and 2019. In the 90's I jumped to a lower paying job to avoid a corporate buyout. What do I win?
Each time I knew it was coming and still could not jump fast enough. The last one was a relief, but in Ag, once you've worked for 4 employers there's no one left to work for. It's really a ****** field to be in.
Since this got a little bit of traction, one other interesting thing happened in this scenario.
The one programmer who worked through the contract found another job shortly after his contract ended (he was hired by one of my old employees). So he got his severance and found a new job. Things went south there after six months and he was laid off again. Things weren't going well for him and I was helping guide him through. He was my right hand man for one of the businesses I managed.
I managed to get him back on with us doing contract work 20 hrs a week so he was at least making some money. At the same time, the big company was having problems hiring for a specific technology and this guy had it in spades. They were trying to hire him permanently but HR was a disaster at this monster company (200,000 employees, it was bananas...there are a lot of people in India). He had a verbal agreement but six weeks later still no official offer.
I called him and told him I was quitting. He was bummed, said he didn't want to stay if he wasn't going to be working for me. He knew everything else was a train wreck. I said "you know, if they do hire you, you're going to end up doing my job." He said he knew that. I said "yep, a lot more responsibility." He sighed.
I said, "do I have to hit you over the head with a frying pan? You don't have an official offer yet, right?" The light bulb finally went off. He says "should I ask for more money?" I said "yes".
I officially submitted my two weeks, the next day he talked with management. Got a $27k raise and had an offer letter in less than a week. He still works part-time for me today at my current job, alongside his current full time job.
The product owner for that same business had also threatened to leave when I quit the first time. He was promoted.
I had lunch with both of these guys in February; none of us had ever actually met in person even though I had worked with them for six years. We laughed and laughed and laughed and laughed......
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