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- Thread starter SoapyCy
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The radio guys here in MSP made a great point yesterday that I think is spot on: Zimmer wants someone to run the offense well enough to give the team a chance to win with the defense he develops. I like Zimmer a lot and hope he stays regardless of how the rest of the season goes. However, Zimmer is effectively a DC who also makes the big decisions. He's not an offensive mind and doesn't pretend to be.
What I don't like is how he says things that make it sound like he's washing his hands of the offense. "Our offense needs to do a better job, etc" He's the head coach and he needs to lead and help fix problems, not just fire shots in his post games.
What I don't like is how he says things that make it sound like he's washing his hands of the offense. "Our offense needs to do a better job, etc" He's the head coach and he needs to lead and help fix problems, not just fire shots in his post games.
The front office looked at how close they were in 2017 and felt like a top tier QB would take them over the top. They didn't think Case could perform on the big stage to get them to a SB.
Cousins was the best available free agent QB on the market so they paid for him. That decision was based upon many assumptions that didn't come true, two of which are: 1) the hodge-podge OL will work in 2018 like it did in 2017 to not be a glaring weakness and 2) the defense will allow so few points that if the offense is even average, they would win a lot of games.
Assumptions 1 and 2 have blown up in their face in a spectacular way. (Yes I know the defense has gotten better later in the season).
Not a whole lot. Just basically coaches on each side of the ball not on the same page, Cousins complaining about not getting plays from the sidelines in time (that apparently got a little heated between Cousins and whoever signals the play in. He complained after the first series and after the same thing happened on the second series he was pretty hot). Zimmer was at his offensive coaches the whole game it sounds like.
My biggest problem: they didn’t think Case could win the big game but what in the world made them think that Cousins could? I would have kept Case because they were good with him....and very close with him. They switched off him because they thought Cousins was better? I think that’s ridiculous.
Cousins is night and day better than Case. They were never going to win a super bowl with Case. May never with Cousins either but he gives them a much better chance.
Cousins has a much higher ceiling than Case. I was fine with the move but they also needed to address the O Line and never did.
I hear you, but I think Case would have been just as bad, if not worse, than Cousins with this OL. If they went with Case and it was going the way it currently is, the narrative would be completely flipped on the front office to "This team went cheap instead of opening the purse for a top tier QB. If only we had Cousins, we wouldn't be in this mess."
My guess is, the front office wanted to do all they could to put this team in the SB. They felt that Cousins got them closer to that goal than Case. They made a call and (so far) it hasn't worked out. Still time though.
Why do you think this? I don’t understand this thought pattern. He started for 3 years, played in 2 playoff games (lost both) and was a .500 QB. What did you see from him that said his ceiling was high?
I suppose. I think they were moving laterally with the QB decision and better off spending the money elsewhere.
This is a big reason why it took him so long to finally get a shot at being a head coach. His blunt nature rubbed a lot of teams the wrong way in the interview process.
I think he's a good coach but I saw Florio took a shot at him on PFT today regarding his stance on loyalty. He didn't allow an assistant to interview for other jobs previously citing loyalty. But he had no problem dumping Difilippo less than one season in. I think Florio is a pot stirrer but he has a fair point. Loyalty should be a two way street if you're going to play that game and block assistants from interviewing for better jobs.
I agree with this, too. Assuming the Vikes make the playoffs, that's where the Cousins signing will be judged. He was supposed to be the last piece of the puzzle. If he performs well in the postseason and helps them reach the Super Bowl then he'll have been worth every penny. Under-perform and fall short and he and the Vikes will get the criticism. Everyone knew what the deal was when they brought him on board.
If the decision is made to get rid of Zimmer it's past time to also show Spielman the door. Just start completely over from the GM down.
Interesting. I didn't know that. The bluntness is a funny thing because what really matters is winning. Bellichick rubs plenty of people the wrong way. Saban seems like a huge a-hole. However, they win so it's excused. Act that way and lose, and you're labeled "too much of a jerk to work with." Act that way and win, and you're "tough but gets results."
I said higher than Case. I didn't say he is going to be a top 5 QB in the league.
It's just something I kind of recall hearing about when he was still a defensive coordinator. He made the rounds in interviews for several years before Minnesota finally took a chance.
What's really interesting about Belichick is that his personality helped get him run out of Cleveland, and before Mo Lewis took out Drew Bledsoe and started the Tom Brady era he wasn't winning much in New England either. Like you said, you can be as big an a-hole as you want to be as long as you win.
It's one of the many realities of the world that people come to learn. Whether it's sports or work, if you're good at your job and make money for the company, you can be as big of an a-hole as you want, as long as you don't cross the line.
If Flip couldn't even get the plays called in time, at this point in the season, no wonder the Vikes moved on.
The Vikes D has just had too many key injuries on the line, LB, and DBs this year to repeat last year's performance. The O-line was bad last year, and with retirements and FA, they were worse this year. And, they drafted a DB who was injured all year instead of getting a stud O lineman. All formulas for a wild card team. Cousins is the least of their problems.
The Vikes D has just had too many key injuries on the line, LB, and DBs this year to repeat last year's performance. The O-line was bad last year, and with retirements and FA, they were worse this year. And, they drafted a DB who was injured all year instead of getting a stud O lineman. All formulas for a wild card team. Cousins is the least of their problems.
