2023-2024 MBB computer projections thread

[NENick]

I agree that it seems there is change in offensive philosophy, which fits the personnel. Guards can push and attack, but I really like the idea of Milan getting looks from 3 off the break.

Of course this pace might also result in more turnovers and, using DePaul as an example, more points given up.

IMO, this is also an indication of a maturing coaching staff. Change to fit.

 

[Cyclonepride]

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Dark Green = Quad 1
Light Green = Quad 2
Yellow = Quad 3
Orange = Quad 4

This is the team sheet taken from CollegePollTracker.

Iowa State Cyclones NET Team Sheet at Bracketologists

bracketologists.com

Kind of blows to get a Quad 4 road win out of the Big 12/Big East challenge

 

[Cyclonepride]

I agree that it seems there is change in offensive philosophy, which fits the personnel. Guards can push and attack, but I really like the idea of Milan getting looks from 3 off the break.

Of course this pace might also result in more turnovers and, using DePaul as an example, more points given up.

IMO, this is also an indication of a maturing coaching staff. Change to fit.

I really don't care how many points we give up if we've got more. I'd take a team that was well above average on both ends of the floor, but maybe not elite on one end.

 

[CoachHines3]

Kind of blows to get a Quad 4 road win out of the Big 12/Big East challenge

Right.. hahaha

 

[Gunnerclone]

I agree that it seems there is change in offensive philosophy, which fits the personnel. Guards can push and attack, but I really like the idea of Milan getting looks from 3 off the break.

Of course this pace might also result in more turnovers and, using DePaul as an example, more points given up.

IMO, this is also an indication of a maturing coaching staff. Change to fit.

Absolutely crucial imo. Got to get him up to 12-15 shot attempts per game imo.

 

[CySmurf]

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Pffft, I'll take the Clones in Hilton 7 days a week. Get some backbone you cowards.

Don't tell us...tell the team.

 

[madguy30]

I really don't care how many points we give up if we've got more. I'd take a team that was well above average on both ends of the floor, but maybe not elite on one end.

Sometimes lots of points given up gets misinterpreted as bad defense when it's actually a lot of possessions.

ISU wasn't great the other night but DePaul didn't get many good looks from the perimeter late.

 

[ClubCy]

 

[Gunnerclone]

I feel like winning games in a blowout and losing games by single digits is a winning formula for every metric.

 

[8bitnes]

Jeff Goodman is saying things we've discussed here for three years and the hawkeyes

 

[Sigmapolis]

That's more of a "the NET is misleading" than an "Iowa State sucks."

 

[ClubCy]

That's more of a "the NET is misleading" than an "Iowa State sucks."

Yep. I wasn’t taking it as a slight because it’s 100% accurate.

 

[ClubCy]

Part of me thinks Goodman is (correctly) pointing out the flaws of NET rankings to feed into the outrage of yesterday and get some engagement to CBB. No other reason to stir the pot in the first week of December when there’s 3 months of games to be played.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Part of me thinks Goodman is (correctly) pointing out the flaws of NET rankings to feed into the outrage of yesterday and get some engagement to CBB. No other reason to stir the pot in the first week of December when there’s 3 months of games to be played.

The dumb part is that he singles out one team (just happens to be us, could be anybody). The teams don’t make the system.

 

[madguy30]

Me thinks TJ and staff knew Feast Week would be a tough haul so ramped up the early blow outs to help them in the NET.

 

[alarson]

Part of me thinks Goodman is (correctly) pointing out the flaws of NET rankings to feed into the outrage of yesterday and get some engagement to CBB. No other reason to stir the pot in the first week of December when there’s 3 months of games to be played.

I mean, if you're a national media guy that lives off engagement, there's never a bad time to stir the pot

 

[alarson]

The dumb part is that he singles out one team (just happens to be us, could be anybody). The teams don’t make the system.

I think we're just a real good example of it though.

No real good wins that justify us being 13 with our best win being #138 NET VCU. Losses to teams we are more highly rated than in NET. So its really evident those games aren't giving us our rating, so it has to come from the only remaining variable- blowing out bad teams.

Honestly though we've recognized this as a problem with NET for awhile. We saw Iowa being the beneficiary from it. Part of me wonders if this was a consideration with our scheduling this year, knowing we'd be young and inexperienced, scheduling this way to game the NET a little bit

 

[Sigmapolis]

I think we're just a real good example of it though.

No real good wins that justify us being 13 with our best win being #138 NET VCU. Losses to teams we are more highly rated than in NET. So its really evident those games aren't giving us our rating, so it has to come from the only remaining variable- blowing out bad teams.

Honestly though we've recognized this as a problem with NET for awhile. We saw Iowa being the beneficiary from it. Part of me wonders if this was a consideration with our scheduling this year, knowing we'd be young and inexperienced, scheduling this way to game the NET a little bit

I think it's more a sample size thing than anything else at this point.

All of the computer rankings are still pretty sus until oh at least late January.

 

[cyclones500]

I really don't care how many points we give up if we've got more. I'd take a team that was well above average on both ends of the floor, but maybe not elite on one end.

Sort of expanding on that, or augmenting -- I'd like to be able to able to play equally well/consistent in an uptempo game or a murk-fest. Be capable of adapting either way along the continuum.

Trick is to know which is more effective depending on opponent.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I think we're just a real good example of it though.

No real good wins that justify us being 13 with our best win being #138 NET VCU. Losses to teams we are more highly rated than in NET. So its really evident those games aren't giving us our rating, so it has to come from the only remaining variable- blowing out bad teams.

Honestly though we've recognized this as a problem with NET for awhile. We saw Iowa being the beneficiary from it. Part of me wonders if this was a consideration with our scheduling this year, knowing we'd be young and inexperienced, scheduling this way to game the NET a little bit

There is no justification needed either way, that’s the whole point of a formulaic ranking system.